Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:15 am  

Journeyman wrote:

what a bl**dy shambles, i was more tired watching that than what i was driving the 600 mile plus round trip. I was so bored so digusted, it beggars belief, and to think that robes comitted that foul, really only wasting times,and in doing so got himself sent off, why try and run the clock down when you are 18 ahead, and only 9/10 minutes to go, and against a team like Widnes who were at that point were demorilised any way, totally stupid.

We are so dam lucky to be in the draw for next round, but any more like that and we will soon be out.

I don't think it was a sin bin offence. We are on their line, the balls dead, they have to wait for them to all get back anyway.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:30 am  

Agree about sin binning, but he did kick the ball out of a players hand, there by delaying the restart and in the book that is time wasting, and duly penalised, but not sure at that stage of the game if sin was right, but whats done was done and we all saw the outcome.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:20 pm  

St pete wrote:

I don't think it was a sin bin offence.

It was a sinbinning every day of the week. He clearly interfered with the fullback as he tried to pick up the ball. Robes first of all kicked the ball with his foot and then caught the player with his hand. That's a professional foul, no doubt at all.

I was shocked he did it. But I think there is something wrong with our whole attitude this season.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:37 pm  

Saints have been terrible in the last 3 games and have been pretty boring to watch.
Lets hope they start to pick up at the end of the season.
Rather they under perform now than at the end.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:49 pm  

It was a blatant proffesional foul and had it been done to one of our players i would expect a binning.Roby has been around long enough to know the refs and what they are like and what they will penalise.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:57 pm  

brook40 wrote:

It was a blatant proffesional foul and had it been done to one of our players i would expect a binning.Roby has been around long enough to know the refs and what they are like and what they will penalise.

I don't think it was a sin bin, the ball was dead, they was at wrong end of the fieid and couldn't possibly prevented a scoring opportunity.

If that's a sin bin then every deliberate offside, marker not square no matter where on the field has to be.

Shenton last week was a sure fire sin bin as it prevented a try but when the ball is dead and 80 meters from our try line then I don't agree.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:00 pm  

St pete wrote:

I don't think it was a sin bin, the ball was dead, they was at wrong end of the fieid and couldn't possibly prevented a scoring opportunity.

But that isn't the point. The point is that Roby held him back. That's a professional foul.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:07 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But that isn't the point. The point is that Roby held him back. That's a professional foul.

If someone makes a break in their own 20 and the supporting player is held back in the first min of a game he will be sin binned?

I doubt it very much.

You can throw constant high shots like Morley and Westwood are doing this year and nothing, yet roby went to the bin when the ball is dead and 80 meters from any scoring opportunity and half the time the red allows the players to get back before the tap anyway.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:18 pm  

St pete wrote:

If someone makes a break in their own 20 and the supporting player is held back in the first min of a game he will be sin binned?

If a player holds an opposition player back then he is committing a professional foul. Shenton was binned for the same thing, but in a tackle. It is in the stopping an opposition player playing by illegitimate means that makes an action a professional foul. Cheating, in other words. Whether someone gets sinbinned for it or not depends on whether the ref sees it or if he sees it whether he has the balls to comply with the rules. Professional fouls are punishable by sin bins.

You can throw constant high shots like Morley and Westwood are doing this year and nothing, yet roby went to the bin when the ball is dead and 80 meters from any scoring opportunity and half the time the red allows the players to get back before the tap anyway.

You are comparing apples with oranges. Foul play is entirely different to a professional foul, and the punishments are entirely different. So far as I know a player can't be binned for foul play. They are sent off and/or the offended team is awarded a penalty and/or the incident is put on report.

Re: Goal line defence : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:53 pm  

The game has got some strange priorities if slowing down a 20 metre restart is punished more severely than driving and elbow into someones throat, belting someone around the head etc. I hate this 'professional' foul nonsense that gets spouted.