Re: Next win? : Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:03 pm  

feilds of knowsleyRD wrote:

which game? all 3.

castleford could also be a tricky game, we never go to well on the easter monday game, who ever or where ever we play

We've lost twice in the last eight Easter Monday fixtures I really couldn't be bothered going back further!

Re: Next win? : Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:30 pm  

daveydj17 wrote:

im loving it 4/4 lmao : : , go on then do what u do best.

Re: Next win? : Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:03 pm  

St pete wrote:

I can see both Wigan and wolves putting 50+ on us but I think leedscwill end up something like 28-8.

Are you serious ?

No chance of such blow out scores. You're making out Saints are on a par with Widnes !!

Re: Next win? : Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:05 pm  

WarriorWithin wrote:

Are you serious ?

No chance of such blow out scores. You're making out Saints are on a par with Widnes !!

I'm deadly serious.

Re: Next win? : Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:06 pm  

WarriorWithin wrote:

You're making out Saints are on a par with Widnes !!

Last night I would say that Widnes are playing better than us! It's really only because Hull are bobbins and Lomax defended like a trojan on the right side that we didn't lose by much more. Our senior players have taken a little holiday. They seem to have forgotten that they get paid to do a job.

Re: Next win? : Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:39 am  

daveydj17 wrote:

go on then do what u do best.

What? Knocking you out of the playoffs you mean? Oh, OK then... If we must...

Re: Next win? : Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:18 am  

Talk about over reacting. You have lost to Hudds and Catalan both teams that could make the top 4 in the last minute, both games you could and maybe should have won. Its not like your losing consistently by 20 points is it. You may well have a poor season this year and finish 5/6 but that doesnt mean you cant get to the GF!

I would back you to beat Bulls next week and you are capable of beating any of Leeds, Wire and Wigan. If your playing like this in august you should be worried but until then just hope you dont get anymore injuries!

Re: Next win? : Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:20 am  

Pete's just a little down, he was predicting 20+ losses for every match since the draw at Hull KR.

So 50 + goes with that kinda prediction.

Saints fan whilst senior players have been slacking off some weeks , (and wello was culpable on friday too), alot of the reason for the loss on Friday lies at the door of Lomax and Gaskell. The forwards won the ground and stinted the Hull attack, but our half backs could not create, after 60 minutes of not creating and literally giving the ball to Hull (lomax 3 or 4 brill passes to hull players), that's when those riskier passes from the forwards came in and the penalties started to mount, pulling hull level and then pushing them in the lead, by the time they scored at the end the game had gone.

I'm not going to bag, Lomax and Gaskell, people have off nights. But each week it's been different players, sometimes the forwards, sometime the wingers this week the halfbacks. It's not that they are not good enough, but for what ever reason we are not working as a team and just a set of individuals who may or may not turn up and do a job.

Confidence is obviously shot at present, but I don't think the season is a write off. The coach has risked this by using the start of the season as a pre-season. So the boys have come in underdone. It could have been a strategy that paid off, if we had scraped a win at Hull KR and held that lead at catalan, I think the next couple of game would also have been different results. But Losing is as catching as winning, it's now down to the coach to turn this around. He's the motivator, he needs to do something different, whether that's taking the boys away from Saints and life in general for a week or something else.

I think we will beat bradford, but it will not be a blow out score, that most would want to restore a return to a dominate Saints side. We can only hope that it's enough for the lads to gain some faith in their own abilities and that the Saints crowd can get behind them for Leeds.

Re: Next win? : Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:22 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Pete's just a little down, he was predicting 20+ losses for every match since the draw at Hull KR.

So 50 + goes with that kinda prediction.

Saints fan whilst senior players have been slacking off some weeks , (and wello was culpable on friday too), alot of the reason for the loss on Friday lies at the door of Lomax and Gaskell. The forwards won the ground and stinted the Hull attack, but our half backs could not create, after 60 minutes of not creating and literally giving the ball to Hull (lomax 3 or 4 brill passes to hull players), that's when those riskier passes from the forwards came in and the penalties started to mount, pulling hull level and then pushing them in the lead, by the time they scored at the end the game had gone.

I'm not going to bag, Lomax and Gaskell, people have off nights. But each week it's been different players, sometimes the forwards, sometime the wingers this week the halfbacks. It's not that they are not good enough, but for what ever reason we are not working as a team and just a set of individuals who may or may not turn up and do a job.

Confidence is obviously shot at present, but I don't think the season is a write off. The coach has risked this by using the start of the season as a pre-season. So the boys have come in underdone. It could have been a strategy that paid off, if we had scraped a win at Hull KR and held that lead at catalan, I think the next couple of game would also have been different results. But Losing is as catching as winning, it's now down to the coach to turn this around. He's the motivator, he needs to do something different, whether that's taking the boys away from Saints and life in general for a week or something else.

I think we will beat bradford, but it will not be a blow out score, that most would want to restore a return to a dominate Saints side. We can only hope that it's enough for the lads to gain some faith in their own abilities and that the Saints crowd can get behind them for Leeds.

I can't see a win next week, it will be close game but I think Jeffries and sammut will be to clever for us.

The bulls showed real grit last night to come back how they did, that's the sort of grit we ain't got.

It will be close but I'm going for another loss.

Re: Next win? : Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:37 am  

St pete wrote:

I can't see a win next week, it will be close game but I think Jeffries and sammut will be to clever for us.

The bulls showed real grit last night to come back how they did, that's the sort of grit we ain't got.

It will be close but I'm going for another loss.

I really don't think we are as bad a team, as simple wins and losses would show at the moment. Hull KR we should have won, Cats should have won, and had oppertunities to win Huddersfield and Hull FC. It's just not happening at the moment. I think it's because Royce gambled on a slow start to the season, expecting we would have just enough to just pull out the wins and build as the season went on, maybe he over estimated our abilities. Then lossing has become catching. Friday night I think the whole crowd where just waiting pretty much all night for something to click, but it just didn't. Then after a mistake and a few penalties and the boys are looking at losing again and the crowd are on their backs.

We need leadership, but quite honestly, I'm not sure who can be our general. I have a long list of who I think it's not, but no one stands out as the obvious choice.

NOT Wellens, Ade, Makinson, Foster, Shenton, Meli, Wheeler, Lomax, Gaskell, Roby, Perry, TP (great player but too quite to organise), LMS, Clough, Dixon, Flannery.

That leaves

Lance (but does not play every week from the start)
Wilkin ( some weeks I think yes, but other weeks I'm not so sure)
Sia ( could be a Graham type leader, but doubt he can organise an attack)
Flanaghan ( honestly too new and not played enough)