Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:10 am  

Tomkins, Briscoe, Bridge, Atkins, Hall, Widdop, Lomax, Graham, Roby, Peacock, Ellis, Westwood, O' Loughlin. Subs: Sinfield, Wilkin, Carvell, Crabtree.

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:29 am  

rally2001 wrote:

I'd like to see Jack Reed in the England team but I don't think he'll choose us over Australia. He's been awesome this year for the Broncos. He's big, strong, good tackler, good hands and quick.

If he's good and qualifies we should be looking to get him onboard ASAP, The Aussie's have been doing it for years with Kiwi's and Islander's so we just need to do the same. Picking players from the worlds premier RL comp will only help us as a team and hopefully bring on the other lads.

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:08 pm  

Anybody else heard Gareth Ellis wont be playiing due to knee op??

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:38 pm  

saintcj wrote:

Willie Manu would be great.
I rate him very highly.

Very hard to tackle, makes some great breaks.

Bring him to Saints PLEASE

Hands off, he's ours!!

I think that we would be wrong to pick him, although saying that, there is nobody in the england team that plays like him and i think he would make an impact against the Aussies. Him, Yeaman and Briscoe on the left would be dangerous

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:58 pm  

1.tomkins
2.hall
3.reed
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.widdop
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.peacock
11.westwood
12.ellis
13.oloughlin
subs
14.carvell
15.morley
16.robinson
17.tomkins

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:07 pm  

According to the press in Aus Reed has chosen to play for England.

Does no one think Mossop should be on the bench (if fit)? Quality at prop this year and is naturally a second rower who is pretty mobile so could add a lot of bulk off the bench in that position.

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:47 pm  

Can't help that negative feeling that under McBanana we are going to get slaughtered anyway but on the upside he might get the sack.

Please tell me, anyone, how did he get the job?
Have we gone back to the bad old days where to get the job, you had to first fail as a coach in SL?


He is clueless and for some reason he won't pick crabtree (is it personal?) and ignores form for misguided "loyaly".

He is the luckest sod in rugby to have got out of Bradord within days of facing the sack and managed to have walked into what should be the top job in RL in this country.
I've aksed him for this weeks lottery numbers.

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:02 am  

saint at wire wrote:

Please tell me, anyone, how did he get the job?

From what I saw, being English and sounding poignant when Bradford lost.

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:35 pm  

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Reed
4. Yeaman
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Brough

8. Carvell
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. O'loughlin

14. Crabtree
15. Peacock
16. J Tomkins/Wilkin
17. Sinfield

Re: What is your England 17 for the Four Nations : Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:35 pm  

i started an exact on our board last week, id make a few amendments to my choices due to reed opting for england etc.

Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Atkins
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Morley
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers

Robinson
Carvell
Crabtree
JJB

On the fringes i would look at Griffin, Bailey, J Tomkins, Briscoe, Wilkin. Griffin is a tough no nonsense prop but i kust cant decide whether he has the quality for interbational rugby. Bailey is not the hard man Leeds fans like to think but he is very good at niggling, winding up the opposition and putting them off their game, dragging them into an arm wrestle. we may need that cos we cant compete skill wise. Tomkins for me just doesnt have the temprement yet and mature as a player. Wilkin along the sames lines for me, never rated him, solid enough but winges too much like sinfield and sometimes think he just needs to get on with it. Briscoe for me is as much as liability defensively as Charnely but Charnely has the little bit of an x factor. we are weak on the wings but Josh edges it for me.