Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:15 pm  

Who would you like to see realistically?

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:18 pm  

Mr Miagi wrote:

Who would you like to see realistically?

I'd like to see lomax at fullback for 2012.

Lance is a great attacking fullback but awful under the high ball.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:19 pm  

Lets look at our 3qtrs then

Shenton England international centre
Meli former NZ winger, and NRL winger of the year, and also current exiles winger.
Foster emerging England Winger
Makinson England academy captain.
Gardner England and GB international Wing

No pace or ability in that line up.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:21 pm  

Being a bit harsh on Makinson here, his kick returns were very good and looked like breaking through a couple of times.

I'd leave Foster and Makinson on the wings, Foster for his kicking and I think Makinson could become very good in the future, he certainly has plenty of pace.

I think we need a pacey player at full back, I'm afraid Wello is a liability now. It's a shame to see it happening but he's holding us back now. I'd like to keep hold of Pryce if possible and have either him or Lomax at FB. Hohaia is far too insecure under the high ball for my liking.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:25 pm  

St pete wrote:

I'd like to see lomax at fullback for 2012.

Lance is a great attacking fullback but awful under the high ball.

I think this would be the best solution but what if Leon leaves? Not sure hohoia/ Gaskell would be as strong as hohoia/pryce or hohoia/ lomax. Would rather have a dependable fullback than weaken the halves as opposed to an all action fullback but that's just me.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:28 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Lets look at our 3qtrs then

Shenton England international centre
Meli former NZ winger, and NRL winger of the year, and also current exiles winger.
Foster emerging England Winger
Makinson England academy captain.
Gardner England and GB international Wing

No pace or ability in that line up.

Shenton - average centre and I like him but not much competition for the England centre spot.

Foster - will never ever ever ever be England regular

Makinson - so what if he's engkand academy captain, this is super leave not academy but I do like the look of him.

Meli - former kiwi, former bring the correct word.

Mate, they are average backs and not good enough.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:29 pm  

Mr Miagi wrote:

I think this would be the best solution but what if Leon leaves? Not sure hohoia/ Gaskell would be as strong as hohoia/pryce or hohoia/ lomax. Would rather have a dependable fullback than weaken the halves as opposed to an all action fullback but that's just me.

If Leon leaves and we don't replace him with top quality halfback then we fooked.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:30 pm  

It's not just back, it's new plays.

Saints style hasn't changed for about 5 years, that shift play on the left with runners going through the line and the ball going behind. Top defences will be waiting for this, there's no shift play to the right whatsoever.

Don't get me wrong, with Meli & Foster you pack a punch on the left, and the weakness that is Josh Charnley was there to be exploited today, but for me, there's an imbalance left to right. We used to be like that, all went right through Briers, to Gleeson & Fa'afilli.

Decent effort today, Wigan grind out another. I'd like to have seen Saints play more football though.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:32 pm  

its not too bad if you get a decent fullback.

Imagine your backline with Sam T in it:

Sam
Whoever you're other winger is?
Shenton
Meli
Foster
Pryce
Lomax

Miles better. But with wellens it just looks slow and unimaginative.

Although saying that Sam at fullback with any other back line in SL wouldnt look so bad.

As an opposition fan i defo see Wellens as a weak link now though. Shadow of a player he once was.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:35 pm  

We've got to many that can't beat a man.