Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:31 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Correct.
Solid if unspectacular, but a workhorse. Just like Phil Bailey was, and Harrison Hansen is at Wigan. And I'm sick of arguing with some Wigan fans as to Hansens value to our team. It's immense.

What has Harrison Hanson ever done to you!!! Leave the poor lad alone.

I remember you comparing Flannery to Bailey before just before Wigan shipped him off to Salford and winning their first Championship in a decade. A fair comparison indeed.

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:32 pm  

With the increased salary cap on the way down under, this is a sure sign that the chances of signing talented NRL players has finally diminished. No disrespect to Flanno but signing a solid but unspectacular Aussie on a 1 year extension means there is no one of any standing interested in coming over here to ply their trade.

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:37 pm  

It's a decent decision assuming he's on a very cheap deal. I must admit though I don't appreciate the tone of the club's email one bit. We're not pushing the boat out with regards to recruitment at all and all the 'breaking news, Saints resign State of Origin forward' nonsense is a bit too sugar coated for my liking. He's not a major signing and he's only being kept on because he's exempt from the quota. If they're paying him as a SOO player then they need to find a new job.

Still leaves us with more than enough room for at least one new player if not two or a major lack of squad depth for next season.

Outs:
Eastmond
Graham
Pryce
Frodsham
Armstrong
Gardner

Ins:
Hohaia
Laffranchi

Compare with Warrington:
Outs:
King
Anderson

Ins:
Waterhouse
Hill
Ratchford

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:40 pm  

Pryce
Frodsham
Armstrong
Gardner

where have you read they are leaving, I know Pryce hasnt been offered a contract until he is fit , but the others?

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:40 pm  

Noel Cleal wrote:

I do not understand why the myth of Flannery being solid exists. I know last years grand final was a painful experience but surely someone else, apart from myself, gave it a second watch. He is a weak link who will let us down in the big games with his flat footed defending. At least if we played a young player instead of him there would be the possibility that one day the young lad would justify his position in the team.

I can hear the cries of laughter coming from Wigan already. A sad sign of the clubs ambitions if ever there was one.

They're in no position to laugh - Ben Cross!!

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:50 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

It's a decent decision assuming he's on a very cheap deal. I must admit though I don't appreciate the tone of the club's email one bit. We're not pushing the boat out with regards to recruitment at all and all the 'breaking news, Saints resign State of Origin forward' nonsense is a bit too sugar coated for my liking. He's not a major signing and he's only being kept on because he's exempt from the quota. If they're paying him as a SOO player then they need to find a new job.

Still leaves us with more than enough room for at least one new player if not two or a major lack of squad depth for next season.

Outs:
Eastmond
Graham
Pryce
Frodsham
Armstrong
Gardner

Ins:
Hohaia
Laffranchi

Compare with Warrington:
Outs:
King
Anderson

Ins:
Waterhouse
Hill
Ratchford

Only 4 assumptions here Saddened, not a bad effort!

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:52 pm  

Gruntfuttock wrote:

where have you read they are leaving, I know Pryce hasnt been offered a contract until he is fit , but the others?

Frodsham and Armstrong don't play and don't have a contract after the end of the season so one assumes they'll be going. It would be a strange decision to resign either of them.

Pryce has been rumoured to be moving to Catalans all year and if Saints haven't offered him a deal it doesn't look likely he'll stay but here's hoping.

Gardner has gone through a terrible injury and replaced perfectly adequately by Foster and Makinson. I'd go as far as saying they are both better than him, Foster definitely is and Makinson brings the much needed speed. If Ade resigns, it should be for a minor fraction of the last deal he signed, as he was no doubt scoring plenty and playing internationally then.

Even if Flannery, Gardner and Pryce stayed, their deals would be reduced so there would still be room to sign someone else. Knowing the club they'll resign Gardner but let Pryce go.

It's clear there is no ambition at the club anymore. The big signings, the Newloves, the Sculthorpes, the Longs, the Lyons, the Alberts just aren't there any more. People go on about Warrington's money, but they can't legally spend any more than we can yet their side is star spangled and never loses senior players like ours does.

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:53 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Only 4 assumptions here Saddened, not a bad effort!

There are 5 actually, but you wouldn't be able to argue with any of them much as I speak the truth.

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:04 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

There are 5 actually, but you wouldn't be able to argue with any of them much as I speak the truth.

They are all likely, I would just hate to drop my usual levels of pedantry thats all.

I think claiming the club has a lack of ambition is harsh though. You dont make 6 finals in the last 4 years with a lack of ambition.

Re: Flannery re-signs : Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:08 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

They are all likely, I would just hate to drop my usual levels of pedantry thats all.

I think claiming the club has a lack of ambition is harsh though. You dont make 6 finals in the last 4 years with a lack of ambition.

Those finals were the tailing off of the greatest period in the clubs history and just happily coincided with there being no other teams with their ducks in a row.

I'll go on record and say this run we're on (3 years now since a trophy?) will reach double figures. We're behind and going backwards at the moment. We'd need Wire and Wigan to implode to catch up.