Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:59 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

both would have been much more valuable to the squad than Ashurst/Dixon with or without hindsight

But we had in theory TP, Jammer, LMS, Perry and Clough in the way of Emmitt playing prop. If Cas were offering him a decent first team salary then there's not much we could have done. I suspect Ashurt and Dicko will still be on "squad man" wages.

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:17 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

But we had in theory TP, Jammer, LMS, Perry and Clough in the way of Emmitt playing prop. If Cas were offering him a decent first team salary then there's not much we could have done. I suspect Ashurt and Dicko will still be on "squad man" wages.

i suppose thats fair, but i suspect he'd have stayed at Saints for reasonable money, same with Johnson, and i'd always rather have 7 props in my squad than 7 back rowers

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:21 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

i suppose thats fair, but i suspect he'd have stayed at Saints for reasonable money, same with Johnson, and i'd always rather have 7 props in my squad than 7 back rowers

Me too, but lets be honest Johnson hadn't done anything to warrant a new contract and isn't as young as the likes of Ashurst/Dixon.

Again, hindsight......

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:33 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

both would have been much more valuable to the squad than Ashurst/Dixon with or without hindsight

Hindsight is such a good thing isn't it

Here are you quotes on Jacob Emitt when there was a topic on him:

"emmit is not good enough for superleague imo"

"he has played for the first team 5 times in total, even though he was availiable through our injury crisis last year. We had 2 props out for over 10 weeks on the trot and he didnt show anything. Further more at 22 he's a year older than Frodsham, but behind him in perceived(by the saints backroom staff) to be behind him in ability. That puts him behind Jammer, Maurie, Foz, Tony P, Brynn, Cloughy and Frodsham. An 8th choice prop has no future at our club, its not harsh, its reality. He may make a few quid from playing rugby in the lower leagues but thats it."

Saddends comment:
Big enough, strong enough, but one of those players who just looks like the lights are off inside his head. Everything is done slowly and he runs in with the impact of a marsh mallow man.

Such experts on our youngsters!

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:53 am  

Zena wrote:

Hindsight is such a good thing isn't it

Here are you quotes on Jacob Emitt when there was a topic on him:

"emmit is not good enough for superleague imo"

"he has played for the first team 5 times in total, even though he was availiable through our injury crisis last year. We had 2 props out for over 10 weeks on the trot and he didnt show anything. Further more at 22 he's a year older than Frodsham, but behind him in perceived(by the saints backroom staff) to be behind him in ability. That puts him behind Jammer, Maurie, Foz, Tony P, Brynn, Cloughy and Frodsham. An 8th choice prop has no future at our club, its not harsh, its reality. He may make a few quid from playing rugby in the lower leagues but thats it."

Saddends comment:
Big enough, strong enough, but one of those players who just looks like the lights are off inside his head. Everything is done slowly and he runs in with the impact of a marsh mallow man.

Such experts on our youngsters!

I salute your endeavour, sir. There's no way I would have bothered doing that myself, but I think you scored yourself a couple of hits there.

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:56 am  

Hey hands off Paul Johnson, been a star for us this year never ever disapears and is always there to take the ball in. he is also my 3 year old God daughters favourite player and he always waves to her if he sees her. great bloke off the field aswell. oh and Chris Dean set off like a house on fire too but unfortunately has simmered down a bit but wether that is due to injuries i dont know.

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:02 am  

Zena wrote:

Hindsight is such a good thing isn't it

Here are you quotes on Jacob Emitt when there was a topic on him:

"emmit is not good enough for superleague imo"

"he has played for the first team 5 times in total, even though he was availiable through our injury crisis last year. We had 2 props out for over 10 weeks on the trot and he didnt show anything. Further more at 22 he's a year older than Frodsham, but behind him in perceived(by the saints backroom staff) to be behind him in ability. That puts him behind Jammer, Maurie, Foz, Tony P, Brynn, Cloughy and Frodsham. An 8th choice prop has no future at our club, its not harsh, its reality. He may make a few quid from playing rugby in the lower leagues but thats it."

Saddends comment:
Big enough, strong enough, but one of those players who just looks like the lights are off inside his head. Everything is done slowly and he runs in with the impact of a marsh mallow man.

Such experts on our youngsters!

That doesn't mean a thing. I'm not paid to develop Saints' squad and am entitled to change my opinion on a daily basis.

Maybe it's the quality of the coaching at Cas that has brought him on? Our young forwards all look terrible while they are at the club. Perhaps the likes of Ashurst and Dixon would look like they were human and not jellyfish if they had a better coach?

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:16 am  

Zena wrote:

Hindsight is such a good thing isn't it

Here are you quotes on Jacob Emitt when there was a topic on him:

"emmit is not good enough for superleague imo"

"he has played for the first team 5 times in total, even though he was availiable through our injury crisis last year. We had 2 props out for over 10 weeks on the trot and he didnt show anything. Further more at 22 he's a year older than Frodsham, but behind him in perceived(by the saints backroom staff) to be behind him in ability. That puts him behind Jammer, Maurie, Foz, Tony P, Brynn, Cloughy and Frodsham. An 8th choice prop has no future at our club, its not harsh, its reality. He may make a few quid from playing rugby in the lower leagues but thats it."

Saddends comment:
Big enough, strong enough, but one of those players who just looks like the lights are off inside his head. Everything is done slowly and he runs in with the impact of a marsh mallow man.

Such experts on our youngsters!

I reckon all of these options would have changed during the run in last season though, when he started to show form. His time at Leigh early in the season really gave him the experience he needed to kick on. I'm pretty sure the above posters would have kept him before Hargreeaves by septemeber 2010.

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:32 am  

Saddened! wrote:

That doesn't mean a thing. I'm not paid to develop Saints' squad and am entitled to change my opinion on a daily basis.

Maybe it's the quality of the coaching at Cas that has brought him on? Our young forwards all look terrible while they are at the club. Perhaps the likes of Ashurst and Dixon would look like they were human and not jellyfish if they had a better coach?

Touchy aren’t we!

Thank God you are not paid to develop the Saints squad, couldn’t imagine your very good at motivating people.

I do not like the derogatory terms you use when referring to our youngster perhaps this is a reflection on you rather than them but I don’t think there is any need for it.

I am of the opinion that Ashurst and Dixon should be dual registered or out on loan, why rotate Magennis,Dixon & Ashurst and play them for so few minutes – Dixon was developing last year under Potter and as most people state on here he looks to be going backwards – why not send him and Ashurst out on loan or dual registration and see what they can do when they are playing more minutes, I for one just do not understand the reasoning behind this as it is not beneficial for the club or the youngsters.

Jacob Emmitt came on leaps and bounds playing at Leigh, on dual registration, and now he is playing regular first team rugby albeit for another Super League club but I am in agreement we should have kept him. The kids that come through the academy are on pennies in comparison to the aussies, they are well worth a gamble.

Re: Jake the Snake Emmitt : Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:38 am  

Zena wrote:

Jacob Emmitt came on leaps and bounds playing at Leigh, on dual registration, and now he is playing regular first team rugby albeit for another Super League club but I am in agreement we should have kept him. The kids that come through the academy are on pennies in comparison to the aussies, they are well worth a gamble.

So after all your detective work you agree with me The dual registration system is something we should use more I'll agree with you on that one.

Which username did you use before this one?