Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:16 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

Huddersfield with Brough have impressed me more this season than Wigan, we blew Wigan away earlier in the season at their place and if it wasn't for a scruffy, fortunate try from Finch we would have nilled them like we have done to quite a few teams this year.

Was that just an off night for this so called superb Wigan defence ?

What you have to remember about tonight is the conditions, they were bound to fatigue players so you wouldn't expect the purest of games especially in defence where its easy to slip (like Harrison did for one of your tries) and its easier to lose your grip on wet shirts compared to dry especially with this new material they use.

I think what you are forgetting is how much that WCC took out of Wigan. We'll see later in the season how it pans out.

The Challenge Cup game Wire v Wigan will also have a big say on how the eventual league leaders finish.

ps don't discount Catalan or Huddersfield.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:19 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

I thought this thread was about how WE thought you and Wigan compare not about how you did tonight... If your going to try trolling by stealth be a little more stealthy

no troll intended mate! I'm just answering someones point about how Wigan would have blown you away tonight.....they might have....but so might we if we had scored that chance....things can change a game...we had all the momentum up until that bombed chance...the momentum suddenly changed in your favour and you were good enough to fully capitalize on it...full credit to Saints for that.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:23 pm  

Another thing about Wigan this year, they have probably been the most fortunate out of the top 4 with injuries.

I know they have Fielden out and they had Richards out at the start of the season but how many key playmakers have they lost this year ? Their test will come if they lose either Tomkins or Leuluai for any length of time, the times ive watched them it seems to be those 2 above that have a big say in their results.

Saints have been crippled with injuries as everyone knows, both Warrington and Leeds have had a lot of injuries as well this year and to key players as well.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:23 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think what you are forgetting is how much that WCC took out of Wigan. We'll see later in the season how it pans out.

The Challenge Cup game Wire v Wigan will also have a big say on how the eventual league leaders finish.

ps don't discount Catalan or Huddersfield.

Huddersfield are very good team...they certainly have bragging rights over us....but the loss of Brough will hurt them against the top teams. Catalans are very good...but lack depth in their squad IMO....both will be in the mix come the play-off that's for sure.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:28 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

Another thing about Wigan this year, they have probably been the most fortunate out of the top 4 with injuries.

I know they have Fielden out and they had Richards out at the start of the season but how many key playmakers have they lost this year ? Their test will come if they lose either Tomkins or Leuluai for any length of time, the times ive watched them it seems to be those 2 above that have a big say in their results.

Saints have been crippled with injuries as everyone knows, both Warrington and Leeds have had a lot of injuries as well this year and to key players as well.

Which "key" players have Wire missed?

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:31 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Which "key" players have Wire missed?

Joel Monaghan
Matt King
Louis Anderson
Ben Harrison
Richie Myler

all had stints on the sidelines..all would be first choice players

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:32 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Which "key" players have Wire missed?

Myler and King were both out for lengthy periods, Joel Monaghan has also now been missing for around a month, we have also had Louis Anderson out with a lengthy injury as well, Ben Harrison only returned from injury tonight after being out for a while. We have had several other players that have missed around 2-3 weeks with injuries.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:35 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

Joel Monaghan
Matt King
Louis Anderson
Ben Harrison
Richie Myler

all had stints on the sidelines..all would be first choice players

So have Hansen, O'Carroll, Finch, Fielden, Roberts.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:42 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So have Hansen, O'Carroll, Finch, Fielden, Roberts.

Sorry Rogues but your scraping the barrel there, most of that lot are comical for one reason or another, good effort though. Finch is and has always been an overrated player, Wigan fans were crying out for Roberts to be dropped after his poor form, who exactly is O'Carroll going to replace in the Wigan starting line up ? Hansen is nothing more than a plodder and you can hardly calll him a key player thats been missing through injury.

Lets see how they would get on if they lost either Tomkins or Leuluai for over a month, lets hope it doesn't happen as you wouldn't wish injury on any player plus you want to see the best players on the pitch.

Re: Interested..... : Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:47 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

Sorry Rogues but your scraping the barrel there, most of that lot are comical for one reason or another, good effort though. Finch is and has always been an overrated player, Wigan fans were crying out for Roberts to be dropped after his poor form, who exactly is O'Carroll going to replace in the Wigan starting line up ? Hansen is nothing more than a plodder and you can hardly calll him a key player thats been missing through injury.

Lets see how they would get on if they lost either Tomkins or Leuluai for over a month, lets hope it doesn't happen as you wouldn't wish injury on any player plus you want to see the best players on the pitch.

You've both been remarkably lucky on the injury front. Both teams would struggle with 12 out like we've had at times or with ALL their halfbacks and backup halfbacks out at the same time. Warrington wouldn't have won that tonight without Briers and Myler.