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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:45 pm  
Sorry I meant Ashurst. I don't think he or Dixon are anything above average.
On the Farrell / Tuson part, it's not true that Maguire prefers Tuson. Farrell has actually played more games than Tuson this season, but has been struggling a little of late with a thigh/calf injury.
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:16 pm  
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Magennis is awful. I thought this for a while as well, this isn't a reaction based on last nights performance, although i thought he was the worst player on the pitch last night. He constantly get's knocked back in both attack and defence, and he makes plenty of mistakes too. Yesterday though, we looked very weak when he was on. Simmons took him off, and IIRC, he never returned.


I'm glad its not just me who thinks this. Apparently he has potential...this has yet to be shown. I honestly ATM cant see him having a future with Saints. Others argue he's hardworking but you still need skill to go with it.
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:45 pm  
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I'm glad its not just me who thinks this. Apparently he has potential...this has yet to be shown. I honestly ATM cant see him having a future with Saints. Others argue he's hardworking but you still need skill to go with it.


He is just a poor mans Mike Bennett. Bennett wasn't brilliant but did a job, Magennis is a lot worse than he was, and he was barely Saints quality.
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:52 pm  
We need to sign at least 2 IMO but the question is who? There will be no Jammer so that leaves us potentially light and lack of back up.
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:26 pm  
Our problems in the back row are systemic. It is clear that our academy favours players with fitness and mobility over those with size and impact. Which is why just about all of the back rows coming out of the academy are much the same size and shape. On the one hand they are quick about the field and can operate right up to 80 minutes per game (allowing other players to be subbed to suit tactics). But they are weak against bigger players who can out-muscle them physically, meaning we make less yards per carry.

This is NOT to say bigger is necessarily better. We mustn't forget that bigger players tire quicker and they can be exposed by a good kick and chase (Millward proved this year after year against Bradford).

The truth is Simmons is right. We didn't execute the right tactics. Had we done so we would have exposed the deficiencies in their back row as opposed to the other way around.
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:40 pm  
I think your all very harsh on Magennis..... kid looks good and often gets away some amazing offloads..... he runs good angles and had he held onto Meli's pass in the 1st half, we would have been right back in the game!!!!

Get off his back.... much better than Dixon and Ashurst.....
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:23 pm  
[quote="browny12345"]I think your all very harsh on Magennis.and had he held onto Meli's pass in the 1st half, we would have been right back in the game!!!!

Is this your attempt at irony :oops:
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:40 pm  
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No that would have made it 14-6 at that point.... they went straight up the other end of the field and scored their 3rd try... taking it to 20-0 a 12 point turnaround in the space of 2-3 minutes!!!!
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:26 pm  
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I think that what was being suggested was that you are telling everyone to get off Magennis back and yet you are atributing the loss of the game to him as if he had taken the pass -which he should have done - it would have turned the game around :BEAT:
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Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:08 pm  
Megennis... not big enough will be gone at the end of his contract
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