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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:40 pm  
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I'm not convinced they've got it in them at the moment. With Pryce back potentially, but Wire will attack us in defense just like Wigan did. If anything they're better at that than Wigan themselves.

We miss Scott Moore's aggression in attack. We miss Pryce's experience. We miss Wheeler's natural ability. We miss Wello's mojo of his season prior to the heel injury that took him off at the DW. He hasn't been the same since.

If Wello's mojo returns he will slip back into third halfback to help out our desperately inexperienced halves who will soon start to lose confidence unless our senior players start to man up. If that happens then we have a creative chance, although we need to pass to the right as well as the left. Most of all, though, we need our forwards to stop being either babies or lazy a r s e s because they let us down tonight. On top of all that, we need to work on our defence again, which is just not reliable. But I think that is partly a reflection of the attitude we are struggling with this season. We cave in. I don't like that and I've mentioned it before. It's not the attitude of a silverware winning side anyway. We actually looked a more determined side with the youngsters in it.
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:44 pm  
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I wouldn't say many were shocked. Frustrated and disappointed is more where I feel. There is great potential in the team but they are so naive and lacking in ruthlessness and aggression. Man for man Wigan aren't much better than us, but they play with such a team spirit and aggression that we totally lack. I don't mind kids being kids and making mistakes, like Mackinson jumping past Roberts rather than trying to stop him, but it was a horrible showing.

You didn't even go to the game did you?

Shameful. :oops:
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:46 pm  
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You didn't even go to the game did you?

Shameful. :oops:


Where do you get that idea from?
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:48 pm  
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Where do you get that idea from?

Read the post I quoted.
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:48 pm  
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Where do you get that idea from?

Roberts didn't play. You meant Richards.
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:50 pm  
Slow the PTB and disrupte Roby then you stop Saints. No plan B
No adaptation to the circumstances.

The top sides have got saints worked out. Mid table teams have to but
have not got the players to carry out the tactic.

In addition to turn the screw teams exploit Wellens via the kicking game.
It is just a rerun of the GF defeats again and again. We need a pacey dangerous
fullback. Wellens needs to be replaced as FB (been saying this for a couple of seasons
not just a kneejerk). Would be happy to have him in the backrow.

As a sidenote - How many times has Roby had the ball knocked out of
his hand by the opposition markers recently? Has the penny not dropped
with either Roby or the coaches.

Wire will have a field day.
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:50 pm  
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Read your previous post again.


I got Roberts and Richards mixed up. Hardly proof I wasn't there.
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Re: Next week : Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:51 pm  
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I got Roberts and Richards mixed up. Hardly proof I wasn't there.

Most of the tripe you type proves you've never even been to a RL game in your life.
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Re: Next week : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:23 am  
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Slow the PTB and disrupte Roby then you stop Saints. No plan B
No adaptation to the circumstances.

Do you not know why that is? I thought it was obvious. We have no experienced halfbacks and Wello has lost his mojo. The halves were shown to be inexperienced tonight because they were up against Grand Final winning halfbacks. Simmons plays off Roby because he is an experienced Grand Final player. We can't have adaptation because the halves aren't ready for that yet although Gaskell tried his best (Lomax only chirping in towards the end of the second half).

The top sides have got saints worked out.

Of course they have. It's easy to work us out just now. That's why we need some experience.

As a sidenote - How many times has Roby had the ball knocked out of
his hand by the opposition markers recently? Has the penny not dropped
with either Roby or the coaches.

Roby should hold on to the ball tighter. He is being targetted because he is the main man. We don't have a thinker on the field; the two thinkers we do have are both injured (Pryce and Wheeler).
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Re: Next week : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:32 am  
Maybe it was just me but our forwards did not take the ball in with any real conviction tonight. Wigan were fierce in the tackle, but to be honest our forwards have to show more desire to make yards in the tackle. To be fair I have not seen this in the other games this season, but it could be that the Wigan forwards really intimidated our tonight.

I seemed to read a lot of our fans saying that they thought we had better forwards than them in the lead up to this game. Do they still think the same now ?

On tonights performance we look miles behind Wigan, and the only straw I can clutch at is the other two games this season which have both been very close. You also have to remember they will bring Hock and Fielden back in the next month and they will be even stronger in the pack.

It is going to take a monumental effort for us to something, but maybe we can get to the cup semi and avoid wigan/wire and give the fans a trip back to Wembley. Given the problems of this season, I think most fans would be happy with that
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