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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:47 am  
who cares,was a great player for us but that's all done and dusted...

"The king is dead,long live the king"
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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]

Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:39 am  
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It's not a good idea if the assistant coach to a rookie (under pressure and with no top-flight record to speak of) is someone who was formerly a better player, with more achievements and - most importantly - possesses greater charisma and force-of-personality.

If Wane hits a sticky patch in which Wigan lose three or four games on the bounce it won't be long before someone in the media links Sculthorpe with the top spot. If it's not the media it'll be the fans. And once the connection is established in the minds of even a small group of supporters (irrespective of whether there is ANY evidence to corroborate the claim) it'll spread like wildfire and put at risk the working relationship between the two.

I'm not saying it's impossible for Wane and Scully to work together successfully. But I don't think it's where the smart money is.
Wane can mould him which will be a good thing even if it doesn't work he will pick up lots of knowledge

I will say something every single player respects wane at wigan he's like alex murphy not a person to get on the wrong side of
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:43 am  
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Wane can mould him which will be a good thing even if it doesn't work he will pick up lots of knowledge

I will say something every single player respects wane at wigan he's like alex murphy not a person to get on the wrong side of

interesting example, he wasnt exactly the worlds best coach was he?

as for scully, good luck to him, he needs to earn a crust
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:53 am  
Agent Sculthorpe :wink:

Not arsed really if he does go to the goons as a great player does not make a good coach :?:

We have the King anyway long live the King :DANCE:
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:07 am  
Good move for him, seem to remember Daniel Anderson saying that Sean Long had the greater potential of being a top coach than Scully and Cunningham.
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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]

Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:22 am  
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interesting example, he wasnt exactly the worlds best coach was he?

as for scully, good luck to him, he needs to earn a crust
He got the respect of the players with the way he coached
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:32 am  
Fair play to him if that's the way he wants to go. Royce thinks a lot of Kieron Purtill so there doesn't seem to be much chance of him getting into the First Team coaching setup at Saints. So this would be a good opportunity to get involved at the top level if it comes off
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:16 am  
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He got the respect of the players with the way he coached


Who Murphy or Wane? If your talking about Wane then he would need to get the respect from coaching rather than his playing past. I barely remember him playing myself but I did read John Monie's book which was interesting ...

Oh and good luck to Scully if he goes. I'd like him to sty at Saints but as has been aid a man needs to earn a living
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:26 am  
There are only so many positions you can create to keep former players in a job. In the end we need the best people doing the job they are good at. I wish him well, hope he can earn some money and it works out well for him. We have KC, on staff, I think Tommy God does some voluntary work. If we employed everyone who was a former great there would be no cash left for the team.

In the end we all need to earn a living and there are only so many jobs to go around. With the ground work done by Keiron Purtill in the youth set up and the benefits, that has brought, it would be foolish to just replace him with a former great player for no other reason than he was a former great who needs a job.
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Re: Scully : Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:28 am  
Before anyone asks or mentions it NO I will not be following him if he decides to go. Unfortunately there is no real coaching roll for Scully at saints at the moment. Let him learn his trade and he will be back at Saints coaching in the future. As much as I don't want him to go to the pies - he has to learn his trade somewhere to progress. Remember Mike Gregory he was our assistant coach under McCrea and then went on to coach Wigan until he became ill. Agent Scully will be back. :wink:
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