Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:03 am  

St pete wrote:

I think Leon and lomax in the halves. It's such a threat with the ball having them two in the halves. Gaskell can play centre so let him and wheeler fight for the centre spot with meli taking ades spot on the wing.

As I said tho, my only concern is the kicking game of Pryce and lomax.

Next year will be interesting with lance being brought in as a halfback. Next year IMO it's going to be either lomax and lance or Pryce and lance at halves but none have a great kicking game.

I cant see past Lomax and Lance at halves tbh - dropping Lomax or moving him out on the wing or something would be a tragic waste of talent. I'd like to retain Pryce but I'd be putting him at Loose or maybe using him to fill the left centre spot. nothing stopping us rotating players during a game i.e Wello move into centre Lance to FB and Pryce in at 6 for spells

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:06 am  

I don't think Pryce is a dead cert to go next year. Royce himself has said he wants to see how he goes when he's back before we offer him a deal which is common sense.

Pryce has said he wants to stay for rest of his career so it's no dead cert he's going.

Pryce is so important to what saints do and IMO if he played in the grand final last year we would have give a better account of ourselves and I also think we'd have won this year at the DW stadium.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:06 am  

No1 Saint wrote:

I cant see past Lomax and Lance at halves tbh - dropping Lomax or moving him out on the wing or something would be a tragic waste of talent. I'd like to retain Pryce but I'd be putting him at Loose or maybe using him to fill the left centre spot. nothing stopping us rotating players during a game i.e Wello move into centre Lance to FB and Pryce in at 6 for spells

Do you think we'll resign pryce??? Really. Royce likes a prop at loose so playing him or any half back there ain't really an option.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:07 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

I think Pryce will go next year.

FWIW it's in today's Express he's off to Catalans.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:08 am  

St pete wrote:

I don't think Pryce is a dead cert to go next year. Royce himself has said he wants to see how he goes when he's back before we offer him a deal which is common sense.

Pryce has said he wants to stay for rest of his career so it's no dead cert he's going.

Pryce is so important to what saints do and IMO if he played in the grand final last year we would have give a better account of ourselves and I also think we'd have won this year at the DW stadium.

True, but I think signing him and Lance would give the signal to Gaskell and Wheeler that it's time to look else where which will leave us short on half backs in 2 years time.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:12 am  

No1 Saint wrote:

I cant see past Lomax and Lance at halves tbh - dropping Lomax or moving him out on the wing or something would be a tragic waste of talent. I'd like to retain Pryce but I'd be putting him at Loose or maybe using him to fill the left centre spot. nothing stopping us rotating players during a game i.e Wello move into centre Lance to FB and Pryce in at 6 for spells

If Pryce is to leave then lomax and lance IMO will Defo play in the halves. Royce has said that lance will play in the halves and on lomax form at 7 this year I can't see how we can move him.

I doubt Royce will play Leon at 13. Royce dies it the new style Aussie way with a big man St 13 which in effect is a extra prop. The Aussies do this and Paul gallan is the perfect example of this. I'd bet my house that TP, clough, magennis or laffranchi will be our 13 in most games with a fully fit squad.

Leon in the centre is a option, it might work out pretty good. He's big, fast, can tackle and good hands but where does that leave wheeler

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:15 am  

St pete wrote:

If Pryce is to leave then lomax and lance IMO will Defo play in the halves. Royce has said that lance will play in the halves and on lomax form at 7 this year I can't see how we can move him.

I doubt Royce will play Leon at 13. Royce dies it the new style Aussie way with a big man St 13 which in effect is a extra prop. The Aussies do this and Paul gallan is the perfect example of this. I'd bet my house that TP, clough, magennis or laffranchi will be our 13 in most games with a fully fit squad.

Leon in the centre is a option, it might work out pretty good. He's big, fast, can tackle and good hands but where does that leave wheeler

Exactly.

We have alot of talent at the moment. But none of those mentioned for me have the kicking game of Wheeler or Gaskell.
In which case we'd be playing with a set of running halfbacks. Leeds have done this with Burrows and Maguire, but they had Sinfield kicking from loose. We would not have that as we'd have a prop at loose.

So we'd be playing with no kicking game of any quality, unless Lomax makes it a training issue to take forward.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:17 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

In which case we'd be playing with a set of running halfbacks. Leeds have done this with Burrows and Maguire, but they had Sinfield kicking from loose. We would not have that as we'd have a prop at loose.

Only if Simmons stays with his present plan. He began the season playing Wilkin at loose and Wilkin was involved in a more Sinfield style play, which personally I prefer and hope he returns to. I'll be disappointed if we don't have Wilkin at loose playing a running and kicking game.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

True, but I think signing him and Lance would give the signal to Gaskell and Wheeler that it's time to look else where which will leave us short on half backs in 2 years time.

Maybe Royce has brought lance as wello's replacement but didn't like saying this as wello is a saints legend.

If we are all honest, we will all admit we do need a new fullback sooner rather than later. Wello has been a modern saints legend but I think we do suffer from his kick returns these days, he's still great under the kick and defence but we never get on the front foot these days from kick returns.

Re: Leon Pryce : Sat May 28, 2011 11:21 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Only if Simmons stays with his present plan. He began the season playing Wilkin at loose and Wilkin was involved in a more Sinfield style play, which personally I prefer and hope he returns to. I'll be disappointed if we don't have Wilkin at loose playing a running and kicking game.

I honestly don't think Royce will go with wilkin at 13 when all fit. Last night he even had magennis at 13. It seems it's the way the Aussies have gone which is why most Aussie clubs and saints go with a outside back on the bench as we still have the four props but one in at loose.

I've said in few posts, Paul gallan is the prime example of the prop style 13. Royce loves TP there. I think this is the postion laffranchi will take up.