Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 3:18 pm  

The Chief wrote:

To be fair to McGennis, the miss on Horne for the last try was actually 80% Jammers tackle to make. His lunge was more desperation as a last ditch attempt.

I must've been dazzled by adrenelin. I just remeber seeing McG prone on the reply as Horne broke clear.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 3:19 pm  

When I first saw this kid breaking into the Saints team, I thought to myself aye up Saints have got a good backrower there. But with series of injury's he's suffered and the game time that's cost him. It looks to have really set him back. He still shows good signs, such as the neat little offloads he produces. But it's so unfortunate for the lad that these injury's have set him back. You only have to look at Wigan's Liam Farrel and how much he has developed over the past 18 months by playing week in week out. And because of that Farrel for me has become one of the best backrowers in the league.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 3:42 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

When I first saw this kid breaking into the Saints team, I thought to myself aye up Saints have got a good backrower there. But with series of injury's he's suffered and the game time that's cost him. It looks to have really set him back. He still shows good signs, such as the neat little offloads he produces. But it's so unfortunate for the lad that these injury's have set him back. You only have to look at Wigan's Liam Farrel and how much he has developed over the past 18 months by playing week in week out. And because of that Farrel for me has become one of the best backrowers in the league.

Hence I think he needs to go on a dual reg when we get more established players back.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 3:56 pm  

The Chief wrote:

To be fair to McGennis, the miss on Horne for the last try was actually 80% Jammers tackle to make. His lunge was more desperation as a last ditch attempt.

Agreed - Jammer's miss.

He acknowledged that fact behind the sticks too by putting his hand up to his team mates.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 4:34 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I must've been dazzled by adrenelin. I just remeber seeing McG prone on the reply as Horne broke clear.

Jammer just patted his arm in the general direction of Horne! He messed that one up did young James. Tut, tut!

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 4:56 pm  

Graham was also partly responsible for the try that came from the Obst chip (or is that the same try you are talking about)
Graham didn't really read the danger and started his chase a fraction too late.

For those of you who missed it the tries are shown again on Sky Sports 4 at 6 p.m.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 5:00 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Graham was also partly responsible for the try that came from the Obst chip (or is that the same try you are talking about)
Graham didn't really read the danger and started his chase a fraction too late.

For those of you who missed it the tries are shown again on Sky Sports 4 at 6 p.m.

Agree, very slow to react there - no real urgency shown, he would have been favourite to collect that ball otherwise.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 5:05 pm  

He looks good to me, better than our other young back rowers in Dixon and Ashurst, but has a bit of size to be able to play prop IMO. If he has a free run with injuries, he'll develop into a good player for us.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 5:19 pm  

I maybe in a minority, but I thought Dixon showed promise last year. Megennis has the advantage of being a bit stockier. But maybe that's because he will develop into a prop, where as Dixon is more a natural back rower. He's been out for most of this year, injury I think so it's hard to compare on this year.

Just like we could not compare megennis last year.

The young forwards don't really get the early exposure that the backscan at 16 - 19 with limited appearances, they only tend to get games at 20/21, so it does not give them as much time to make an impact, or to gain experience.

I think with young forwards it's tough to call time on them before they hit 23, as they are in the hot stuff tackling wise from when they hit the first team.

Re: McGennis : Tue May 03, 2011 5:23 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Agree, very slow to react there - no real urgency shown, he would have been favourite to collect that ball otherwise.

i just think he "clocked off" for a second and that was enough. What made me think about it was his tremendous "read" of the danger situation late on in the Good Friday derby. Lomax put the short grubber kick in and Tomkins was onto it and away. Graham read the situation brilliantly and got back into a position to make the tackle.

Had he read the Obst play yesterday as well as did on Friday the try may well have been prevented, but perhaps I'm being a bit over critical (had Graham been subbed then?)