Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:35 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Probably us lot on here!

Well it wouldn't be me of course. No one would survive that, the public backlash would have drowned them like a tsunami.

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:57 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He didn't. He said he hadn't seen the incident but that all things should be done as a team. Kyle Eastmond has subsequently apologised on the Saints website so I think he was fully aware of how poor his behaviour was.

I think you should read the information given on page 331 on sky text, Headline "Simmons criticises Eastmond" No mention of our lack of ideas to breakdown a defensive line, all about Arnold and how he should disclose what he has (or maybe has not) decided. Diverse tactics as far as I can see.

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:12 am  

Crosfielder wrote:

Thoughts ???

knew there would be a thread on this from the scousers

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:44 am  

Based on the games played thus far,nothing has changed under Simmons ie poor defence,very little in the way of attacking ideas and up the middle one man rugby

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:59 am  

Benidorm John wrote:

I think you should read the information given on page 331 on sky text, Headline "Simmons criticises Eastmond" No mention of our lack of ideas to breakdown a defensive line, all about Arnold and how he should disclose what he has (or maybe has not) decided. Diverse tactics as far as I can see.

I saw a similar headline online but all I could see was the observation that the matter should be sorted sooner than later as the indecision is disruptive to the team. Personally I don't view that as a criticism of Eastmond; more a desire to get the team on an even keel.

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:02 am  

Saint from Prestwich wrote:

Based on the games played thus far,nothing has changed under Simmons ie poor defence,very little in the way of attacking ideas and up the middle one man rugby

Did you record the Wire match? If so, watch the try scored by Flannery. Simmons said that is the kind of rugby he wants the team to play. He also said that they started playing more like he wanted them to play at around minute 70. I think it is going to take a long time to undo the barge mentality in our team.

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:05 am  

Benidorm John wrote:

I think you should read the information given on page 331 on sky text, Headline "Simmons criticises Eastmond" No mention of our lack of ideas to breakdown a defensive line, all about Arnold and how he should disclose what he has (or maybe has not) decided. Diverse tactics as far as I can see.

Don't want to turn this into another Eastmond thread but as a strong coach Simmons should take charge of the situation and leave him out of the team until this situation is resolved.
Whats happening at the moment is creating a lot of bad feeling between fans and the player and that may spoil any future he may have at the club.

On Simmons himself its too early too judge, but he does seem to be one of those coaches who has a plan and sticks to it throughout the game even if it isn't working, reminds me a bit of Mclennan in that respect.
Other than rotating players he didn't seem to make any tactical subs on Friday.

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:26 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Kyle Eastmond has subsequently apologised on the Saints website so I think he was fully aware of how poor his behaviour was.

Do you seriously think that came from Kyle?? not someone at the club or an advisor telling him to do it! typical PR!

On Simmons come on he has to be given a chance, but when it was first announced that he had been given the position reports from down under seemed very surprised??

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:38 am  

jaybs wrote:

Do you seriously think that came from Kyle?? not someone at the club or an advisor telling him to do it! typical PR!

I have never known of a Saints player apologising to the fans for his own behaviour towards them before. I might have missed it in the past but I certainly don't remember it ever occurring. It is possible he got a bollocking for what he did because the club will know that they are going to have a hard enough time attracting fans to Widnes this season as is; to alienate the hardcore fans at this stage would be a financial and public relations disaster. Whatever the source of the apology is irrelevant: it has been attached to him and everyone will be watching him. I doubt that he will win back the respect of Saints fans any time soon regardless of what he does but if he puts in 100% from now until he goes then that will keep most of us happy.

On Simmons come on he has to be given a chance, but when it was first announced that he had been given the position reports from down under seemed very surprised??

I'm giving Simmons a chance. I think he has the toughest job of all our coaches to be honest. And he's had to deal with the death of his own father on top of the mini crises we have had here this season (Kyle Eastmond saga and injuries to our pivotal players). Trying to re-educate a team in how to play attractive and winning rugby league while dealing with those other issues is not an easy task and I feel sorry for him. He looked right fed up when interviewed by Sky after the match! (I watched it back once I'd come home)

Re: TAXI for Royce? : Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:38 am  

SAINTS57 wrote:

Don't want to turn this into another Eastmond thread but as a strong coach Simmons should take charge of the situation and leave him out of the team until this situation is resolved.

That would be great but we don't have the back up to do that.