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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:25 am  
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That's correct. We don't give a stuff if we take the piss out of our supporters or not. They'd fleece their own grandmothers out of a few quid at that club.


Massively loss-making club building a new stadium - is anybody really surprised? We were clearly being overcharged for tickets at KR compared to some other clubs with vastly superior facilities; this is no different.

The Saints business model makes absolutely zero sense until we're in a new stadium - it's impossible to get the club to breakeven whilst spending full cap at the moment. Unfortunately this is one of the prices we, as fans, have to pay.

If paying an extra tenner for a fleece contributes to the club staying afloat, I don't really care. It would be different if my cash was going into the owner's pocket or to fund a leveraged buy out or whatever, but fact is that every penny counts at Saints and they are having to fleece (pardon the pun) the loyal supporters to keep the club alive until Halo Park opens.

There's another argument around the people of the town getting off their sofa or pub stool to watch the games and the club wouldn't be forced to do these things, but that's been done to death.
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:59 am  
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We could hire those vile students to trash Widnes town centre and attack Stevo's car as he arrives for our first televised game.


Superb marketing ploy. Put me down for 10 pairs of shorts.
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:01 pm  
Saints can charge what they like, and as long as people are daft enough to pay top money for cheap crap they will carry on selling it at daft prices.

The club no longer have KR as an excuse for losing money.
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:33 pm  
I was excited by the idea of the fitted player style of shirt, until I saw the price of it. Oversized 90's style it may have to be.
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:54 pm  
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Massively loss-making club building a new stadium - is anybody really surprised? We were clearly being overcharged for tickets at KR compared to some other clubs with vastly superior facilities; this is no different.

The Saints business model makes absolutely zero sense until we're in a new stadium - it's impossible to get the club to breakeven whilst spending full cap at the moment. Unfortunately this is one of the prices we, as fans, have to pay.

If paying an extra tenner for a fleece contributes to the club staying afloat, I don't really care. It would be different if my cash was going into the owner's pocket or to fund a leveraged buy out or whatever, but fact is that every penny counts at Saints and they are having to fleece (pardon the pun) the loyal supporters to keep the club alive until Halo Park opens.

There's another argument around the people of the town getting off their sofa or pub stool to watch the games and the club wouldn't be forced to do these things, but that's been done to death.


For a start our crowds are very good for the size of club we are. There is a vastly over-inflated belief amongst some about what sort of crowds we should get. Ten years ago, I'd never have believed we could be averaging 11,000 to watch us in a dilapidated ground, despite paying over the odds prices.

The trouble is with fleecing the supporters, it creates bad blood and long term this is not good business. Saints business plan seems to revolve around getting everything here and now and we will worry about the future when it comes to it. Charge £35 for something and the possibility is another tenner might get spent on something else when you are there. Charge well over the odds at £45 and people won't be there to contemplate another purchase. It's just human nature.

Maybe if the club explained why the prices were so high, they'd get more sales with a bit of a sympathy vote. Try to hide it and make out the prices are normal and some people wake up to the fact that they are being treated as fools and rebel.

We know times are hard, we are aware that the club refuses to use its franking machine when it can get us to cough up and pick up stuff instead, but it goes down much better if you actually inform the people why this is happening and, even better, tell them that it is actually happening, rather than leaving them to guess.
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:55 pm  
The amount of Leeds merchandise you see around the city when you go in is incredible, everone seems to either have a scarf, hat, shirt, coat etc on.

I think this is maybe to do with the recent achievements and people jumping on the bandwagon but it is still impressive none the less. Saints do have a shiny stadium to pay for but im not sure as to how much the club will be making from ISC and the sales of shirts.
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:18 pm  
It'll be a combination of everything, Leeds and Hull will sell more, so can buy it for less themselves, Saints wont, plus as the chair (i think) suggested, we tend to start with a high price then discount massively through the season.
I'm impressed and surprised that saints actually got the top out for christmas, keep up the good work!
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:59 am  
its probably down to the more you order the cheaper it becomes, I hazard a guess but I think that Leeds probably sell in excess of 2x the qty that Saints sell
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:22 am  
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its probably down to the more you order the cheaper it becomes, I hazard a guess but I think that Leeds probably sell in excess of 2x the qty that Saints sell

I think you may need medical attention, that was a reasoned post!
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Re: Are you being Ripped off ??? : Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:21 pm  
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I think you may need medical attention, that was a reasoned post!


I apologise :oops:
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