Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:05 pm  

we need to get him back and treated asap. dont want him missing the season start

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:43 pm  

If its torn ankle ligaments, you are looking at 2 months before you can even walk again, let alone train

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:56 pm  

MacBlondie wrote:

If its torn ankle ligaments, you are looking at 2 months before you can even walk again, let alone train

More like 6-8 weeks maybe 3 months prior to being able to start training again.

Thought he was poor first half but upped his game second half.

Despite someone who has posted on this thread blaming Goulding for the first try, for actually making a tackle, he was ball watching on the TL pass on the next play and got caught out as we had the numbers. Not the last time he struggled in defence in the first half.

Better than Atkins though by a country mile.

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:18 pm  

jonh wrote:

Despite someone who has posted on this thread blaming Goulding for the first try, for actually making a tackle, he was ball watching on the TL pass on the next play and got caught out as we had the numbers. Not the last time he struggled in defence in the first half.

Not alot he could do about the try. They had an overlap on that side and Shenton was effectively marking 3 men.

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:47 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

Not alot he could do about the try. They had an overlap on that side and Shenton was effectively marking 3 men.

Thats what I thought at the time but looking back the inside defenders had moved across and it was a 3 on 3.

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:16 pm  

jonh wrote:

Thats what I thought at the time but looking back the inside defenders had moved across and it was a 3 on 3.

I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times.

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:19 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times.

Be careful praising any Wigan player, "Saints Fan" will be asking questions.

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:31 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Well, the BBC crew referred to an ankle knock that he'd recovered from but since typing the first bit of my last post I read the Sky website and found that it was a sprained ankle rather than an ankle knock. And we know what they can be like from our experience with Kyle babes.

So much about this England side remind me of Saints ala 2010, actually. Poor defence, dropping the ball, giving away penalties, no halfbacks, poor kicking game, a handful of players performing well, and one of them subsequently out injured with an ankle sprain ...

I know HP was poor at times but surely he was better than that clown McBanana who said after the game
"We dipped our toe in the water on Saturday and as soon as we realised it wasn't as cold as we thought, we managed to find our feet in the second half."

The best comment of the game goes to the BBC match commentator who said when Luke came on "here comes Isaac Luke the rubber faced man"

Re: shenton : Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:38 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote: I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times. I disagree, it was a 4 on 3 and Shenton got the read very wrong, in fact he made no read at all and got caught flat footed ball watching. Basic error, having said that the vision was good but the ball was also forward. He also made the initial miss that caused Goulding to come in, he should have done better on both occasions but his inside defenders also have to put their hand up, most notably Brown. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 121138.stm 2 minutes 30.

BackrowSaint wrote: I think that try should go down to great vision and execution from Leuluai rather than a defenseive error. I think that play won't have been stopped 99/100 times. I disagree, it was a 4 on 3 and Shenton got the read very wrong, in fact he made no read at all and got caught flat footed ball watching. Basic error, having said that the vision was good but the ball was also forward. He also made the initial miss that caused Goulding to come in, he should have done better on both occasions but his inside defenders also have to put their hand up, most notably Brown. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 121138.stm 2 minutes 30.

Re: shenton : Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:07 am  

jonh wrote:

snip

Mmm, could have done better, although the initail trouble when goulding had to come in seemed rife whenever the ball was going wide. Team defence outwide seems to be one of the biggest problems england has.

Shenton did miss another one on Pritchard later in the game, which was poor, but he made a couple of good calls in defence later on and started to do a bit with the ball.

Reasonably encouraging veiwing for the saints fans though, i'd say, as he does apparently possess the one thing we crave at the moment - pace.