Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:29 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

Difficult to predict how Simmons will do, but I'd say any NRL coach or assistant coach is a level or two above anything over here. If Maguire can turn some average players into SL champions, then surely Simmons can get an extra gear out of an already good set of players?

Well maybe he could if he had some?

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:43 pm  

The Hurricane wrote:

Dident Millward use to go drinking with players?

If Simmons can get out of our current crop of Saints players what Millward got out of his crop of Saints players then Simmons can go partying with them every night for all I care!

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:54 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

If Simmons can get out of our current crop of Saints players what Millward got out of his crop of Saints players then Simmons can go partying with them every night for all I care!

Agreed. Millward was brilliant for us, by far our best coach during the Super League era in my opinion, and his list of trophies backs that opinion up nicely.

He had his problems, but I would quite happily go through another 'Millward' type era.

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:10 pm  

Smurf wrote:

Agreed. Millward was brilliant for us, by far our best coach during the Super League era in my opinion, and his list of trophies backs that opinion up nicely.

He had his problems, but I would quite happily go through another 'Millward' type era.

I disagree and I would use any of his 50+ point thrashings as evidence. Anyone of our coaches, including Harry Potter would have won trophies with the players at Millwards diposal.
He had his plus points, but some pretty big flaws as well. Perhaps we would have been able to pull the odd GF out the bag, but the likelyhood of us being there would be seriously reduced imo.

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:13 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

He had his plus points,

We played some amazing rugby league during his tenure - which is getting great things out of his crop of players! (That was the bit I meant)

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:16 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

We played some amazing rugby league during his tenure - which is getting great things out of his crop of players! (That was the bit I meant)

At times, but I have to raise you 70-nil at leeds. Stuff like that, and the long trip home after a pasting at odsal, still leave scars on me, I'm afraid.

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:44 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

At times, but I have to raise you 70-nil at leeds. Stuff like that, and the long trip home after a pasting at odsal, still leave scars on me, I'm afraid.

Fair enough.

I suppose with Millward it was measuring that against Wide to West (since that is the other extreme to the 70-nil thrashing). It's obvious why Daniel Anderson copped all the silverware really because he took an obviously well coached attacking team consisting of some talented players and gave it steel in defence and clinical finishing, which is all that was needed to turn it into a champion team.

I suppose after the relative dourness of our play during Potter's regime (bar the natural skill and great form of Pryce and Eastmond when actually on the pitch), I'm very hungry for some great attacking moves to grace Saints' performances again. I don't want Millwardesque defence back though. In defence I just hope we are better than we were under Potter.

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:04 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Perhaps we would have been able to pull the odd GF out the bag

I'd have taken one Grand Final win from one appearance, rather than none from four appearances, any day of the week.

Re: Old man Royce : Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:25 pm  

Smurf wrote:

I'd have taken one Grand Final win from one appearance, rather than none from four appearances, any day of the week.

I'm not sure I would (and i'm not sure the club's coffers would aswell), i've had four fantasitic evenings in Manchester watching my team competing for our game's biggest prize during a period of team transition in which we had no right to be there at all, rather that than one trophy and three Bradford/Wiganesk 'building' seasons floundering mid-table, 3 summers of absolute dispear.

Re: Old man Royce : Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:30 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Fair enough.

I suppose with Millward it was measuring that against Wide to West (since that is the other extreme to the 70-nil thrashing). It's obvious why Daniel Anderson copped all the silverware really because he took an obviously well coached attacking team consisting of some talented players and gave it steel in defence and clinical finishing, which is all that was needed to turn it into a champion team.

I suppose after the relative dourness of our play during Potter's regime (bar the natural skill and great form of Pryce and Eastmond when actually on the pitch), I'm very hungry for some great attacking moves to grace Saints' performances again. I don't want Millwardesque defence back though. In defence I just hope we are better than we were under Potter.

Royce is the man to bring back a very strong defence.