Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:48 pm  

rammsteinbloke wrote:

The last time we entered the season with a number of high profile signings was 2006 - and look what happened there.

We've been 'in decline' for the past 4 seasons, and managed to finish runners up in each of those. Hardly decline.

sad but you get nothing for second palce.

and

was beat by 12 points in the grand final.

Was an entirely generous score.

Not that you should be worried. Your signings next year will be ruthless but this year was a failure.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:48 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You think we have stopped rebuilding? If so, think again. We're losing how many players this season? And bringing how many in? And do we not need pacy wingers who can also tackle and catch bombs? We have a lot of rebuilding yet to do.

And I'd rather not make it to a Grand Final again until (a) we have rebuilt and (b) someone can reinstate that winning mentality we once had.

No i don't think we've finished rebuilding, thats why i used "while"

I do however think we are bringing in some good players in LMS, perry and shenton and all the young lads are a super league season older, we will be in better shape next year.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:49 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

You think we have stopped rebuilding? If so, think again. We're losing how many players this season? And bringing how many in? And do we not need pacy wingers who can also tackle and catch bombs? We have a lot of rebuilding yet to do.

And I'd rather not make it to a Grand Final again until (a) we have rebuilt and (b) someone can reinstate that winning mentality we once had.

So who are the players leaving?

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:51 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

sad but you get nothing for second palce.

You get more than finishing 3rd-14th.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:56 pm  

ExiledWool wrote:

It's our umpteenth year of decline, keep 'em coming

and yet, if you win it next year, in typical fashion the same people will predict you're going to dominate for the next trillion years.

people are so short sighted.

whenever a good team loses a big game they are in decline, and whenever a team get's success it's some sort of starting point for some super dynasty lasting decades.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:57 pm  

St pete wrote:

So who are the players leaving?

What, you don't know? Gids, Cunningham, Maurie, Bryn, Emmitt and maybe some more because Flannery, Meli and Wello were also up for contract renewals but we haven't heard whether new contracts have been offered (in Meli's case, hopefully not! And probably Flannery too for that matter).

We are losing five players who have played in the first team, at least one of whom has been very influential. But we are bringing in three. Granted, Emmitt probably wouldn't have played had we had Maurie, but now we have neither with just one prop coming in. The numbers don't add up. If the rumours are true about Gardner and Pryce too, we're in a fix next season.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:58 pm  

rammsteinbloke wrote:

You get more than finishing 3rd-14th.

good point.

A Challenge Cup eases the pain though.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:59 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

What, you don't know? Gids, Cunningham, Maurie, Bryn, Emmitt and maybe some more because Flannery, Meli and Wello were also up for contract renewals but we haven't heard whether new contracts have been offered (in Meli's case, hopefully not! And probably Flannery too for that matter).

We are losing five players who have played in the first team, at least one of whom has been very influential. But we are bringing in three. Granted, Emmitt probably wouldn't have played had we had Maurie, but now we have neither with just one prop coming in. The numbers don't add up. If the rumours are true about Gardner and Pryce too, we're in a fix next season.

That's good. You need a clear out and a few years of not making the grand final so you can get rid of the mental baggage.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:07 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

What, you don't know? Gids, Cunningham, Maurie, Bryn, Emmitt and maybe some more because Flannery, Meli and Wello were also up for contract renewals but we haven't heard whether new contracts have been offered (in Meli's case, hopefully not! And probably Flannery too for that matter).

We are losing five players who have played in the first team, at least one of whom has been very influential. But we are bringing in three. Granted, Emmitt probably wouldn't have played had we had Maurie, but now we have neither with just one prop coming in. The numbers don't add up. If the rumours are true about Gardner and Pryce too, we're in a fix next season.

I know KC, gidley, maurie, bryn and emmitt but i was under the impression you knew for sure from the context of your post.

We will miss KC but lets be honest he don't play much game time these days and we've got roby and moore witing the wings. What a great player he's been!

Gidley has been on his last legs this year and shenton will improve us in the centre.

Maurie ain't played much over the last two seasons and has been hit and miss in the times he has played.

Bryn is solid enough but LMS is better and will improve us there and with aussie prop josh perry coming in will improve us a great deal.

Emmitt has really come on leaps and bounds over the last 3 month and i think it's a mistake not keeping him.

So on a whole i think we will improve next year.

Re: 4 in a row : Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:08 pm  

Banielates wrote:

That's good. You need a clear out and a few years of not making the grand final so you can get rid of the mental baggage.

Is that a joke ?

We need a few years of not making the grand final