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Re: Ashurst : Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:17 pm  
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Dixon is a better player than Ashurst and Maggennis will be the best of the three in 2011 IMO.


I disagree, going off this season. Dixon hasn't shown much in attack, he defends very well but so do all our young back rowers. However, Ashurst has shown some good ball skills, and has apparently played at 6 for the reserve side before making the step up, the game away at Leeds stand out for me, i thought he was very good in that game.
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Re: Ashurst : Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:30 pm  
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I disagree, going off this season. Dixon hasn't shown much in attack, he defends very well but so do all our young back rowers. However, Ashurst has shown some good ball skills, and has apparently played at 6 for the reserve side before making the step up, the game away at Leeds stand out for me, i thought he was very good in that game.


Dixon has bust more tackles in 7 less games in 2010, I just see him as the better prospect of the two. The stats suggest he has a better strike rate, carries the ball more and makes more tackles too (although there are other areas where Ashurst is superior).

I could of course be proved completely and utterly wrong and it's nice to have a few prospects knocking about. :D
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Re: Ashurst : Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:31 am  
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Dixon is a better player than Ashurst and Maggennis will be the best of the three in 2011 IMO.
I'm tempted to agree with that, certainly impressed me a lot when I've seen him this season.
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Re: Ashurst : Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:50 pm  
FearTheVee wrote:
Dixon is a better player than Ashurst and Maggennis will be the best of the three in 2011 IMO.


I must say I like what I've seen from Maggennis. Looks far more dangerous with ball in hand than Dixon or Ashurst ever do. Those two when compared with Farrel for me are way behind in their development and ability.

Farrel, Ashurst.
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

Farrel, Dixon.
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

I won't be surprised when one of them moves on in the near future, maybe followed by the other if Saints happen to find other more promising lads for the backrow.
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Dixon is a better player than Ashurst and Maggennis will be the best of the three in 2011 IMO.


I must say I like what I've seen from Maggennis. Looks far more dangerous with ball in hand than Dixon or Ashurst ever do. Those two when compared with Farrel for me are way behind in their development and ability.

Farrel, Ashurst.
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

Farrel, Dixon.
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

I won't be surprised when one of them moves on in the near future, maybe followed by the other if Saints happen to find other more promising lads for the backrow.
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Re: Ashurst : Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:55 pm  
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I've been mighty impressed by Farrell lately. He is a year older, mind (i think), but seems to have taken to superleague very well.

It took jtomkins a couple of seasons to start impressing, didn't it?

McGennis does have a glint of somethin special, though.
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Re: Ashurst : Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:58 pm  
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I must say I like what I've seen from Maggennis. Looks far more dangerous with ball in hand than Dixon or Ashurst ever do


I would definitely agree. MaGennis looks like a top prospect for the back row, hopefully he can put his knee problems behind him which must have taken some doing even to this stage.
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Re: Ashurst : Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:07 pm  
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I've been mighty impressed by Farrell lately. He is a year older, mind (i think), but seems to have taken to superleague very well.

It took jtomkins a couple of seasons to start impressing, didn't it?

McGennis does have a glint of somethin special, though.


True it did take Joel a few years to become consistent with his performances. But he'd shown signs all a long that he was going to be a good player, it was just matter of getting his consistency levels up. When ever I've seen Mcgennis play, like you I've seen signs that he's going to be a goodun.

In Ashurst and Dixon though I've not seen the same sparkle, even though they've had more game time than Mcgennis. I'd describe those two as grafters, and while there's nothing wrong with having grafters in your team (after all everyone needs them) to have two in the same position is unnecessary. Keep the most promising one and bin the other, which I'm sure Saints will do down the line.

Just for the record Dixon, Ashurst and Magennis are all older than Farrel (although not by much, plus it doesn't really matter. It's experience that counts).
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Re: Ashurst : Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:37 pm  
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Just for the record Dixon, Ashurst and Magennis are all older than Farrel (although not by much, plus it doesn't really matter. It's experience that counts).
Fair enough, I thought Farrell was older. According to Wiki your right, although they'd all have fallen in the same school year.
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