Re: James Graham : Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:50 am  

If you look on the Wire site, there's a James Graham thread. Everyone agrees that he's a great player.

Re: James Graham : Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:22 am  

I dont think there are many fans out there who would say he is a rubbish RL player, I am sure there are many opposition fans who believe he is indeed a FGB, but thats part N parcel of the game as a supporter, I spent my whole supporting career booing players who I knew were quality, giving them greif and informing them they are weak and useless, when infact I knew they were beasts and rather good at their trade, so much so they wound me up and wished my team had that player.

STRAWBERRY BLONDE !

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:11 am  

I think Graham has fantastic skill but someone needs to get a grip of him and sort his head out.
Yes he has passion, but is that passion best displayed to the RL world and beyond by F'ing and jeffing at the referee, throwing away his GF medal, trying to get back in the dressing room before Wigan were presented with the trophy???

This is not a good advert for our Great Game.

IMHO he's becoming a liability and the joke of the Rugby League world (and not in a funny way either)

Saints need to harness that passion and make it work and Graham could actually reach a whole new level.

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:22 am  

woolstonbabe wrote:

I think Graham has fantastic skill but someone needs to get a grip of him and sort his head out.
Yes he has passion, but is that passion best displayed to the RL world and beyond by F'ing and jeffing at the referee, throwing away his GF medal, trying to get back in the dressing room before Wigan were presented with the trophy???

This is not a good advert for our Great Game.

IMHO he's becoming a liability and the joke of the Rugby League world (and not in a funny way either)

Saints need to harness that passion and make it work and Graham could actually reach a whole new level.

It might not always come across in the right way but it just shows how much he cares. As for watching Wigan lift a trophy? why should he have to watch if he doesnt want too ( I certainly didnt stay to watch ) and who the hell wants to keep a losers medal? the only reason I could think of is to stick it on view to provide the motivation to go one better next time.

His rant at the ref was wrong and he needs to cut it out.

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:31 am  

Poor performance last night IMO.

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:38 am  

I think Graham is an awesome player, and would have him in Wigan colours tomorrow! I laugh at all the opposition fans that call him names, because he just keeps on going, his engine is fantastic!! He only needs to get his temper under control and get rid of a bit of pettyness out of his game and he will be an incredible player!!! To think he is only 24? and a world beater prop, in 5/6 years when his body matures more he will be unstoppable! I know its part of his game, but he needs to make the collision more, and offload a little less, as last night he became a little predictable when taking the ball up! This is my only criticism of a player who is only going to get better!!!

Hope he doesnt go to an Aussie team, we need to see him in our game!

Matt

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:44 am  

I have always thought Graham a top notch player, but I now feel he is in danger of going rapidly down hill. I worry about the matches down under this year as I think on last nights performance he will be unable to settle down as a team mate of the Wigan players and cause disroption as was reported with the Leeds players in a previous set of internationals

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:57 pm  

outstanding player. i think he needs to learn to control his gob tho.

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:02 pm  

SAINT ANDREW wrote:

outstanding player. i think he needs to learn to control his gob tho.

I agree, it looks awful when he back chats.

Re: James Graham : Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:03 pm  

Sorry as a junior coach I have to disagree with you.

We teach all children to WIN and LOSE with dignity. Our players and fans applaud the other team and spectators at the end of the match. From a very eary age we instil discipline in our players and celebrate all achievements. Saints got to the GF, Win Lose or Draw the achievement is to be celebrated.
Kyle Eastmund prevented Graham from going into the changing rooms, Obviously this youngster has been coached in the same manner as we have adopted and is a credit to your club.

My main gripe is the frequent loss of control and the vitriolic rants at the referee.
If a child swears at the referee, they get a 8 match ban, no chance of appeal. How can we tell our youngsters that the referee is above reproach whilst on the pitch if they are watching Graham disrespect the referee on a regular basis.
IMHO the way we conduct ourselves on the pitch is what places our sport above others eg. Football.
I am very saddened that dissent has started to creep into our game and the longer that Graham (And others) are allowed to get away with it the worse it is going to get with the new generation feeling it is their right to voice their views in whichever way they see fit to the man in the middle.

As I said I believe that James Graham has a lot of talent, but its not his talent that is drawing the attention its his continual paddying and foul mouthed rants.