Luke Walsh : Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:19 pm  

I watched the game back last night and sky are trying their best to get Walsh a big ban.

Having watched it back, I probably agree it's a ban as it's a dangerous tackle but not worthy of a big ban the sky team want.

I watched the leigh v Salford game and Robert Lui does a very simular tackle on 35:40 during first game and not a mention of dangerous tackle or big ban.

Imo when a player is lifted in the air and then thrown or let go, it then becomes dangerous.

For me, I think Walsh as was sin binned deserves 1 match ban

Re: Luke Walsh : Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:28 pm  

agree wasn't that bad and yellow card was right

Re: Luke Walsh : Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:33 pm  

I don't think it's worthy of anything really. I'm in two minds as to whether it's even a penalty. Walsh tackles him well, that is how you are taught to tackle, get under the ball. He didn't turn him to drive him into the ground. Of course it's potentially dangerous, but so are a lot of tackles that don't result in bans. It'll be interesting to see how they treat it. Luke's one was another borderline one. On one angle it looked a shoulder charge, although there was no contact with the head. On another it looked like his right arm was up around the player, therefore a legitimate tackle. On another it looked innocuous and more like he was defending himself against the ball carrier leading with his elbow.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:04 pm  

Having watched it again. I'm with saddened on this. It was about 0.3 seconds worth of a tackle. He his hard and low. He does not turn him into a spear and he lets go in the air the millisecond the legs go up.

I'll take the yellow as some times the ref feels the need to make a statement. But that should be sufficient.

SKY did not stop with Walsh.

They also wanted Louie off.
Lomax off.
Thompson off.

It was basically a hate in for any Saints player slightly out of line.

The way they kept talking about Thompson being in trouble was disgusting. It was a head clash. The reason the player went off was because of an ankle injury.
They get a full report from the sidelines talking about the ankle injury and the commentators continue to say that it will cause Thompson problems later in the week.

It was the usual Wigan suspects stiring the pot too.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:11 am  

Oh come on guys all these conspiracy theories is a complete joke, all clubs claim it and more and more grounds are also getting on referees backs hoping they can change decisions, at the end of the day it is the review committee that makes the decisions? but I do feel referee's should make the decisions themselves, I like it in RU were the referee himself watches it on the big screen and speaks with the match official/video referee, next it will be all the review committee are season ticket holders at Leeds & Wigan LOL.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:26 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Having watched it again. I'm with saddened on this. It was about 0.3 seconds worth of a tackle. He his hard and low. He does not turn him into a spear and he lets go in the air the millisecond the legs go up.

I'll take the yellow as some times the ref feels the need to make a statement. But that should be sufficient.

SKY did not stop with Walsh.

They also wanted Louie off.
Lomax off.
Thompson off.

It was basically a hate in for any Saints player slightly out of line.

The way they kept talking about Thompson being in trouble was disgusting. It was a head clash. The reason the player went off was because of an ankle injury.
They get a full report from the sidelines talking about the ankle injury and the commentators continue to say that it will cause Thompson problems later in the week.

It was the usual Wigan suspects stiring the pot too.

You forgot Swift should of been off too.

Let's be fair, this wasn't Wigan bias, this was Sky supporting Catalans because it gives them a story they can run with (the battle for 4th) which seem quite thin on the ground this year. Hence why Percival limping off on the 25th minute is only mentioned by the sky team on about the 46th minute (by Phil Clarke of all people!) yet Broughton seemed to be every third word at one point!

As for the Walsh tackle, it was as bad as Isas during the Derby. No arms between the legs, no drive through onto the floor, marginally above the horizontal, and lands on his shoulders. Penalty sufficient, the yellow I can understand but think is harsh, any ban would be way OTT, and trial by sky.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:39 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

You forgot Swift should of been off too.

Let's be fair, this wasn't Wigan bias, this was Sky supporting Catalans because it gives them a story they can run with (the battle for 4th) which seem quite thin on the ground this year. Hence why Percival limping off on the 25th minute is only mentioned by the sky team on about the 46th minute (by Phil Clarke of all people!) yet Broughton seemed to be every third word at one point!

As for the Walsh tackle, it was as bad as Isas during the Derby. No arms between the legs, no drive through onto the floor, marginally above the horizontal, and lands on his shoulders. Penalty sufficient, the yellow I can understand but think is harsh, any ban would be way OTT, and trial by sky.

I think it'd dangerous when you lift like Walsh did and then throw/let go. When you leave go of the player, the is no control of the attacker at all.

It was nowhere near as bad as sky made it out. I think we need to stop this in the game tho as I it's career and life changing if it goes wrong.

As I mentioned in the op, I seen the same tackle by Robert Lui in the leigh v Salford but no mention.

In all honesty I think a yellow and one game ban is sufficient.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:43 am  

St pete wrote:

I think it'd dangerous when you lift like Walsh did and then throw/let go. When you leave go of the player, the is no control of the attacker at all.

It was nowhere near as bad as sky made it out. I think we need to stop this in the game tho as I it's career and life changing if it goes wrong.

As I mentioned in the op, I seen the same tackle by Robert Lui in the leigh v Salford but no mention.

In all honesty I think a yellow and one game ban is sufficient.

I have no issue with stopping these tackles.

By all means the RFL should say anyone lifting in the tackle is an automatic yellow with a 3 match ban to follow.
However they can't do it with 5 games left in the season.
There has to be time to let players adjust. In the off season they could introduce this as a rule, after the first 5 weeks of yellow cards and 3 match bans. The players would adapt.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:23 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

I have no issue with stopping these tackles.

By all means the RFL should say anyone lifting in the tackle is an automatic yellow with a 3 match ban to follow.
However they can't do it with 5 games left in the season.
There has to be time to let players adjust. In the off season they could introduce this as a rule, after the first 5 weeks of yellow cards and 3 match bans. The players would adapt.

I'm pretty sure it will be in the rules of a player lifts another player then throws/let's go then it's an offence.

Re: Luke Walsh : Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:12 pm  

I thought it was always about lifting between the legs but happy to be wrong