Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:23 pm  

From the top of my head Wilkin, Walsh, LMS, Turner and McDonnell are OOC this year. There's probably a couple more but these five inparticular are interesting. Who would everyone like to keep/release if it were up to them?

To start us off:

Walsh - i wouldn't mind him staying for another year if we can get an effective running 6 with him.

Wilkin - despite the stick he gets, i think he leads us around well and i wouldn't mind him staying for another year or two, hopefully playing as a ball-playing 13.

LMS - i'd be tempted to let him go. As good as he can be on his day, i can't help but feel for the money i imagine he's on (England international when he signed and may have signed a new deal since i cannot remember) we could find someone better or will be in a few years.

Turner - similarly to LMS, i feel this is an area we could do better. I don't think either Turner or Peyroux are good enough to be centres for a side that wants to challenge for SL. He has utility value but with Peyroux around next year to cover centre and back row i'd be happy to let JT go and look for a centre who can both attack and defend.

McDonnell - if SMD is happy to stay another year as a back up full-back i'd be happy to have him for another year. I don't think he is good enough in that position to be first choice for a side who wants to challenge for SL, but he is competent back up IMHO. The fullback area could need addressing in 2016 depending on how Lomax goes this year. Also depends on how the young fb in the reserves (Bailey is it?) progresses.

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:04 pm  

All depends on what's available to bring in to replace them but if we can I'd replace the lot. None are great players tbh.

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:18 pm  

Like St.Pete says, it depends on who we can replace them with.

For example, Joe Mellor is out of contract at Widnes and I'd take him over Walsh any day. But if we couldn't replace Walsh with someone as good/better then I wouldn't be sad to see him stay.

I would love to see us go for Mellor either way, I think he's one of the most underrated players in Super League.

I wouldn't be against an extension to Wilkin personally. He gets a lot of stick at times but more often than not he's an important player in our better performances. I'd like to see us use him at 13 and bring Greenwood back in but that's a different argument.

Turner has turned into a "jack of all trades, master of none" type player. I don't really know what he does anymore and I wouldn't be sad to see him go. He's weak defensively out wide and simply isn't a half back. As an attacking centre he's fine but his defence lets him down.

McDonnell is decent enough as a back up to Lomax and gives his all. As long as he's on a fairly modest salary and is happy to play 2nd fiddle then I'd like to see him stay.

LMS should 100% be released for me. He's been stealing a living and pulling the wool over many peoples eyes for some time now. He's a complete and utter liability, a penalty and error machine and tries to mask this with his constant high fiving and back slapping. A funny, likeable guy off the field but a complete numpty on it.

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:53 pm  

Id get shut of them all. Some good money there for better players.

Half back is a hard one for Saints because I feel both Richardson and Fairclough are future england half backs but I would be tempted to go for Mellor because of his pace.

Wilkin is a true servant but his time at a top club has gone. Let him move on to Hull KR.

Mcdonnell and Turner we can replace easily.

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:21 pm  

What I'd like to (semi realistically) see:

Lomax
Makinson Percival Turner Swift
Fages Walsh
Walmsley Roby Thompson
Soliola T Sims
Savelio

Peyroux Greenwood Amor Tasi

Owens
Dawson Connor Wellington Grace
Richardson Gilmore
Richards Charnock Haggerty
Davies AN Other
Knowles

IN*: Soliola, T Sims, J Connor, T Gilmore
OUT: LMS, Vea, Wilkin, SMD, Burns

I've erred on the side of caution, there should be enough room in those ins and outs to see another NRL/ top SL quality player in. I'd prefer a prop or a centre (though that would bring into question re-signing Turner).

*In names are just examples I pulled out of the players I know to be ooc

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:28 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

What I'd like to (semi realistically) see:

Lomax
Makinson Percival Turner Swift
Fages Walsh
Walmsley Roby Thompson
Soliola T Sims
Savelio

Peyroux Greenwood Amor Tasi

Owens
Dawson Connor Wellington Grace
Richardson Gilmore
Richards Charnock Haggerty
Davies AN Other
Knowles

IN*: Soliola, T Sims, J Connor, T Gilmore
OUT: LMS, Vea, Wilkin, SMD, Burns

I've erred on the side of caution, there should be enough room in those ins and outs to see another NRL/ top SL quality player in. I'd prefer a prop or a centre (though that would bring into question re-signing Turner).

*In names are just examples I pulled out of the players I know to be ooc

Gone off Claire now ?

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:40 pm  

St pete wrote:

Gone off Claire now ?

We have Dawson for another 2 years now.

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:44 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

We have Dawson for another 2 years now.

Lol

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:49 pm  

St pete wrote:

Lol

Connor from hudds would be my choice as the backup back pickup for the year

Incoming is a lot harder this year, as zerotackle as stopped their Superleague off contract section

Re: Keep or release? : Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:02 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Connor from hudds would be my choice as the backup back pickup for the year

Incoming is a lot harder this year, as zerotackle as stopped their Superleague off contract section

Conner looks decent but can't work out what his best position is.