Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:42 pm  

http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article...layers-charged I really hope we fight this - it was a high tackle but it wasn't a shoulder charge.

http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article...layers-charged I really hope we fight this - it was a high tackle but it wasn't a shoulder charge.

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:50 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article...layers-charged

I really hope we fight this - it was a high tackle but it wasn't a shoulder charge.

Theres a photo on other forum of it showing Walmsleys other arm was around Robinson (ergo not a shoulder charge) - cant remember where though

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:54 pm  

Can't spake.

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:55 pm  

I think 2 to 3 games is justified tbh.

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:05 pm  

Seems harsh compared to Moon's horror show.

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:06 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

Seems harsh compared to Moon's horror show.

Isn't he charged with same offence which carries same suspension ?

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:17 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Theres a photo on other forum of it showing Walmsleys other arm was around Robinson (ergo not a shoulder charge) - cant remember where though http://www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... ed-Grade-C I cant post the photo here due to technical reasons lol .. It's never a shoulder charge but difficult to argue with contact to the head

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Theres a photo on other forum of it showing Walmsleys other arm was around Robinson (ergo not a shoulder charge) - cant remember where though http://www.redvee.net/forums/showthread ... ed-Grade-C I cant post the photo here due to technical reasons lol .. It's never a shoulder charge but difficult to argue with contact to the head

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:27 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

http://www.redvee.net/forums/showthread.php?26028-Walmsley-charged-Grade-C

I cant post the photo here due to technical reasons lol .. It's never a shoulder charge but difficult to argue with contact to the head

Still cant find the photo

But hes not up before the disciplinary for a high tackle, hes up before the disciplinary for a shoulder charge, of which he is innocent.

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:32 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Still cant find the photo

But hes not up before the disciplinary for a high tackle, hes up before the disciplinary for a shoulder charge, of which he is innocent.

Hence why he should go not guilty. It's never a shoulder charge.

Re: Walmsley charged - Grade C : Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:57 pm  

Can anyone actually find a definition of a 'Shoulder charge' in the rules? I've had a quick search but can't find it. I'm sure Cummings refers to a tackler having one arm down by their side and rotation in the hips? If that is the case, then at no point does this happen. Walmsley is genuinely making a tackle and his arm is up to effect a tackle.

Therefore, surely the correct charge would be:

Charge 15(b): when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly.

But it depends on what they actually define a shoulder charge as! Either way, they carry the same punishment but obviously depending on the state Walmsley's mind; i.e. intentional, reckless etc