34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:14 pm  

Daryl Clark (Castleford Tigers, Fryston Warriors)
Craig Huby (Castleford Tigers, Pontefract Lions)
Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers, Upton & Frickley)
Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons, West Bowling)
Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield Giants, Newsome Panthers)
Brett Ferres (Huddersfield Giants, Smawthorne Panthers)
Joe Westerman (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
Josh Hodgson (Hull Kingston Rovers, East Hull)
Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos, Hunslet Parkside)
Tom Briscoe (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)
Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Zak Hardaker (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)
Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos, Waterhead)
Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion)
Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
Jonny Lomax (St Helens, Orrell St James)
Tommy Makinson (St Helens, Wigan St Judes)
James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Alex Walmsley (St Helens, Dewsbury Celtic)
Kyle Amor (St Helens, Hensingham)
Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves, New Spring Lions)
Richard Myler (Warrington Wolves, West Bank Bears)
Stefan Ratchford (Warrington Wolves, Wigan St Patricks)
Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights)
Chris Bridge (Warrington Wolves, Waterhead)
John Bateman (Wigan Warriors, Bradford Dudley Hill)
Joe Burgess (Wigan Warriors, Ince Rose Bridge)
Josh Charnley (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Liam Farrell (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Michael McIlorum (Wigan Warriors, Queens)
Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Dan Sarginson (Wigan Warriors, Hemel Stags)
Scott Taylor (Wigan Warriors, Skirlaugh)
Matty Smith (Wigan Warriors, Blackbrook)

Likely NRL Additions for 4 Nations:

Sam Tomkins (New Zealand Warriors)
James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs)
George Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Jack Reed (Brisbane Broncos)
Gareth Widdop (St George Illawarra Dragons)
Trent Hodkinson (Canterbury Bulldogs) ???

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:16 pm  

Can't really argue with any of the picks to be honest although I'd have picked Sneyd over Myler going off current form.

Happy for the 5 lads that have been selected from St Helens and it's good to see a decent number of Saints players back in the England fold.

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:23 pm  

Breakdown by positions:

Full Backs:

Zak Hardaker (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)
Jonny Lomax (St Helens, Orrell St James)

Wingers:

Tom Briscoe (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)
Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Tommy Makinson (St Helens, Wigan St Judes)
Joe Burgess (Wigan Warriors, Ince Rose Bridge)
Josh Charnley (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)


Centres:

Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers, Upton & Frickley)
Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield Giants, Newsome Panthers)
Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion)
Dan Sarginson (Wigan Warriors, Hemel Stags)

Halves:

Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos, Waterhead)
Richard Myler (Warrington Wolves, West Bank Bears)
Stefan Ratchford (Warrington Wolves, Wigan St Patricks)
Chris Bridge (Warrington Wolves, Waterhead)
Matty Smith (Wigan Warriors, Blackbrook)

Props:

Craig Huby (Castleford Tigers, Pontefract Lions)
Alex Walmsley (St Helens, Dewsbury Celtic)
Kyle Amor (St Helens, Hensingham)
Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves, New Spring Lions)
Scott Taylor (Wigan Warriors, Skirlaugh)

Hookers:

Daryl Clark (Castleford Tigers, Fryston Warriors)
Josh Hodgson (Hull Kingston Rovers, East Hull)
James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Michael McIlorum (Wigan Warriors, Queens)

Second Rowers:

Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons, West Bowling)
Brett Ferres (Huddersfield Giants, Smawthorne Panthers)
Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos, Hunslet Parkside)
Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights)
John Bateman (Wigan Warriors, Bradford Dudley Hill)
Liam Farrell (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)


Loose Forwards:

Joe Westerman (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:31 pm  

Backrow Saint wrote:

Trent Hodkinson (Canterbury Bulldogs) ???

Does Trent Hodkinson's recent appearance for NSW not rule him out of contention for England?

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:37 pm  

Dux wrote:

Does Trent Hodkinson's recent appearance for NSW not rule him out of contention for England?

I'm not 100% sure. I don't know definitively but I would have thought so. I don't think there's any official ruling as NSW of course sin't classed as an 'international' but I think the Aussies would see it as him being ruled out. He was available for selection for the World Cup but wasn't selected.

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:39 pm  

Dux wrote:

Does Trent Hodkinson's recent appearance for NSW not rule him out of contention for England?

It's does indeed - part of the criteria for SOO is that they're all available for Australia (according to Wikipedia) ...

Though, thinking about it, he is currently available for Australia, and still declare himself for England at the end of the season (but he could never play SOO again after that)

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:41 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote: I'm not 100% sure. I don't know definitively but I would have thought so. I don't think there's any official ruling as NSW of course sin't classed as an 'international' but I think the Aussies would see it as him being ruled out. He was available for selection for the World Cup but wasn't selected. Players must also be eligible to represent Australia at international level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Origin_series But like I say, it doesn't limit him to declare for England ...

BackrowSaint wrote: I'm not 100% sure. I don't know definitively but I would have thought so. I don't think there's any official ruling as NSW of course sin't classed as an 'international' but I think the Aussies would see it as him being ruled out. He was available for selection for the World Cup but wasn't selected. Players must also be eligible to represent Australia at international level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Origin_series But like I say, it doesn't limit him to declare for England ...

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:45 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Players must also be eligible to represent Australia at international level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Origin_series But like I say, it doesn't limit him to declare for England ... Eligible but not restricted then essentially? Can't see him giving up SOO for an England cap though.

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Players must also be eligible to represent Australia at international level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Origin_series But like I say, it doesn't limit him to declare for England ... Eligible but not restricted then essentially? Can't see him giving up SOO for an England cap though.

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:52 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Eligible but not restricted then essentially?

Can't see him giving up SOO for an England cap though.

Given he's never played for Australia at any level (I don't think) he's not restricted to Australia - he is dually eligible for Australia and eligible for England at the moment I think. SOO doesn't change that

Depends what happens this SOO I think, if Hodgkinson fancies himself as wins it this year, he could turn himself into a 1 time great enigma by only playing 1 series and winning 1!

Re: 34 Man England Train-on Squad Announced : Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:58 pm  

The squad meets the week Sydney Roosters have a bye.
It is also the week that Wigan play Widnes in their game in hand.
Wigan have had nine players selected (over 25% of the squad) and none will be available for the training camp.
Management McNamara style!