RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:57 pm  

You can read all the details now about the proposed league structure and in particular how the salary cap will work http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... umentation Here are some tasty morsels to engender debate The salary cap at present is limited to 50% of a clubs income upto a finite level of £1.825 million pounds. This is interesting as i'm sure many of us were of the understanding that the 50% turnover cap had been binned off. Maybe some clubs have been spinning a lie to fans. Its proposal is that for club trained players, the maximum value that they will represent towards the salary cap is £100k. Hence someone like Jonny Lomax or Sam Tomkins could be paid £400k a season but only £100k of that counts on the cap. This then rewards clubs that develop their own talent, rather than buy in superstars from elsewhere, as imports or bought in players would count 100% on the cap. The championship salary cap will be increased to £900k, I understand its about £300k at present Club academies will be restricted to just 10. This is interesting as if you have only 10 academies then those clubs in SL without an academy would not benefit from the club trained player salary cap exemption and therefore would be at a serious disadvantage. Of course this could be mitigated if the 12 team league consisted of 10 English clubs and 2 French clubs. Makes me wonder if this is in the RFL's thinking. Clubs without pro academies would be linked to centres of excellence. These would be part time and in an educational environment. Salary cap introduced for academies to prevent clubs from buying up all the junior talent from elsewhere eg Warrington.

You can read all the details now about the proposed league structure and in particular how the salary cap will work http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... umentation Here are some tasty morsels to engender debate The salary cap at present is limited to 50% of a clubs income upto a finite level of £1.825 million pounds. This is interesting as i'm sure many of us were of the understanding that the 50% turnover cap had been binned off. Maybe some clubs have been spinning a lie to fans. Its proposal is that for club trained players, the maximum value that they will represent towards the salary cap is £100k. Hence someone like Jonny Lomax or Sam Tomkins could be paid £400k a season but only £100k of that counts on the cap. This then rewards clubs that develop their own talent, rather than buy in superstars from elsewhere, as imports or bought in players would count 100% on the cap. The championship salary cap will be increased to £900k, I understand its about £300k at present Club academies will be restricted to just 10. This is interesting as if you have only 10 academies then those clubs in SL without an academy would not benefit from the club trained player salary cap exemption and therefore would be at a serious disadvantage. Of course this could be mitigated if the 12 team league consisted of 10 English clubs and 2 French clubs. Makes me wonder if this is in the RFL's thinking. Clubs without pro academies would be linked to centres of excellence. These would be part time and in an educational environment. Salary cap introduced for academies to prevent clubs from buying up all the junior talent from elsewhere eg Warrington.

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:18 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Its proposal is that for club trained players, the maximum value that they will represent towards the salary cap is £100k. Hence someone like Jonny Lomax or Sam Tomkins could be paid £400k a season but only £100k of that counts on the cap.
This then rewards clubs that develop their own talent, rather than buy in superstars from elsewhere, as imports or bought in players would count 100% on the cap.

Very interesting, could prove very helpful in keeping Robes and J-Lo

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:33 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote: You can read all the details now about the proposed league structure and in particular how the salary cap will work http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... umentation Here are some tasty morsels to engender debate The salary cap at present is limited to 50% of a clubs income upto a finite level of £1.825 million pounds. This is interesting as i'm sure many of us were of the understanding that the 50% turnover cap had been binned off. Maybe some clubs have been spinning a lie to fans. Its proposal is that for club trained players, the maximum value that they will represent towards the salary cap is £100k. Hence someone like Jonny Lomax or Sam Tomkins could be paid £400k a season but only £100k of that counts on the cap. This then rewards clubs that develop their own talent, rather than buy in superstars from elsewhere, as imports or bought in players would count 100% on the cap. The championship salary cap will be increased to £900k, I understand its about £300k at present Club academies will be restricted to just 10. This is interesting as if you have only 10 academies then those clubs in SL without an academy would not benefit from the club trained player salary cap exemption and therefore would be at a serious disadvantage. Of course this could be mitigated if the 12 team league consisted of 10 English clubs and 2 French clubs. Makes me wonder if this is in the RFL's thinking. Clubs without pro academies would be linked to centres of excellence. These would be part time and in an educational environment. Salary cap introduced for academies to prevent clubs from buying up all the junior talent from elsewhere eg Warrington. Some very good things with some slightly concerning ones Hasn't the salary cap been at 1.6m for the last few years so the 1.825m represents a (modest) increase? Really like the home grown only count for 100k of salary cap - could be useful in bringing jammer back too as well as keeping the likes of Roby and j-lo Increasing the championship salary cap is a really good thing as well - we should see more of the "late developers" picked up by the championship clubs ala Walmsley which should be good. The academy salary cap should be interesting - I imagine saints wigan and Leeds will be the clubs suffering from this -especially Wigan, given the tomkins money was supposedly gonna go on academy players ...

The Chair Maker wrote: You can read all the details now about the proposed league structure and in particular how the salary cap will work http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... umentation Here are some tasty morsels to engender debate The salary cap at present is limited to 50% of a clubs income upto a finite level of £1.825 million pounds. This is interesting as i'm sure many of us were of the understanding that the 50% turnover cap had been binned off. Maybe some clubs have been spinning a lie to fans. Its proposal is that for club trained players, the maximum value that they will represent towards the salary cap is £100k. Hence someone like Jonny Lomax or Sam Tomkins could be paid £400k a season but only £100k of that counts on the cap. This then rewards clubs that develop their own talent, rather than buy in superstars from elsewhere, as imports or bought in players would count 100% on the cap. The championship salary cap will be increased to £900k, I understand its about £300k at present Club academies will be restricted to just 10. This is interesting as if you have only 10 academies then those clubs in SL without an academy would not benefit from the club trained player salary cap exemption and therefore would be at a serious disadvantage. Of course this could be mitigated if the 12 team league consisted of 10 English clubs and 2 French clubs. Makes me wonder if this is in the RFL's thinking. Clubs without pro academies would be linked to centres of excellence. These would be part time and in an educational environment. Salary cap introduced for academies to prevent clubs from buying up all the junior talent from elsewhere eg Warrington. Some very good things with some slightly concerning ones Hasn't the salary cap been at 1.6m for the last few years so the 1.825m represents a (modest) increase? Really like the home grown only count for 100k of salary cap - could be useful in bringing jammer back too as well as keeping the likes of Roby and j-lo Increasing the championship salary cap is a really good thing as well - we should see more of the "late developers" picked up by the championship clubs ala Walmsley which should be good. The academy salary cap should be interesting - I imagine saints wigan and Leeds will be the clubs suffering from this -especially Wigan, given the tomkins money was supposedly gonna go on academy players ...

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:41 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Some very good things with some slightly concerning ones

Hasn't the salary cap been at 1.6m for the last few years so the 1.825m represents a (modest) increase?

The document states clearly that the cap is to stay at its present level of £1.825 million.
So this would appear to be another area of misunderstanding between fans and governing body.

It does indicate that while the RFL is quite open in publicising documents. Its not very good at accurately getting the message across to the fans in general.

I do suspect myself that in some areas that the clubs are to blame for this, as its often in their interest to spread misinformation regarding the salary cap, to keep fans off their backs about why they are not signing players, or letting players leave.

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:45 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote: The document states clearly that the cap is to stay at its present level of £1.825 million. So this would appear to be another area of misunderstanding between fans and governing body. It does indicate that while the RFL is quite open in publicising documents. Its not very good at accurately getting the message across to the fans in general. I do suspect myself that in some areas that the clubs are to blame for this, as its often in their interest to spread misinformation regarding the salary cap, to keep fans off their backs about why they are not signing players, or letting players leave. http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1 It says here its the 1.6 I thought (E1.3.1) ...

The Chair Maker wrote: The document states clearly that the cap is to stay at its present level of £1.825 million. So this would appear to be another area of misunderstanding between fans and governing body. It does indicate that while the RFL is quite open in publicising documents. Its not very good at accurately getting the message across to the fans in general. I do suspect myself that in some areas that the clubs are to blame for this, as its often in their interest to spread misinformation regarding the salary cap, to keep fans off their backs about why they are not signing players, or letting players leave. http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1 It says here its the 1.6 I thought (E1.3.1) ...

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:09 pm  

Having gone through the paper properly now there are a few more points to be raised:

Every professional club will be required to maintain an u19 academy (5.4.18) however £1.68million designated for player development will be spread around 10 academies (5.4.5) - are they expecting only 10 pro clubs? Or is it a case of the top 10 get the money?

They are in the consideration for the marquee signing ruling - this combined with the 100k home grown rule should really help increase the standard and at least allow the top clubs to compete for a decent standard of signing.

There also going to be much stronger punishments for clubs in financial difficulty

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:14 pm  

All of this is likely to come to nothing if the rebel clubs get their way.

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:34 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/interactive_operational_rules?section=E1

It says here its the 1.6 I thought (E1.3.1) ...

Is the difference employers nic contributions?

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:41 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Is the difference employers nic contributions?

I assume so - though I'm sure if I looked hard enough I could find another figure again as chair maker said there's a lot of misinformation about - just not helped when two figures come from the same body!

The whole thing sounds to me as the rfl loading its bargaining chips with the disgruntled clubs

Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:15 pm  

Why on earth are they planning to let the Championship clubs increase their cap by 200%. Absolutely crazy, they all lose money as it is. Unless they are getting a massive slice of the TV money it's just lunacy surely, unless I'm missing something?