Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the game? : Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:43 pm  

Take a look at this article by the Wigan Chairman Ian Lenagan: http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-5625250 Is it me that thinks 'what a bell' when reading this? It is the incredibly insular people within RL like Ian Lenagan, Gary Hetherington and Adam Pearson that will ultimately be the death of RL in this country. That article is a complete nonsense, especailly this part: “WE have no problem with the salary cap at all,” the Warriors chairman said. “I don’t think it should go up. I'M perfectly comfortable with it. WE'RE not having a problem with it. “Why would I want to pay more money than WE are? It's all about what happens at Wigan: that is such a damaging way to look at situations like this. Take, for example, the youth re-structuring. Hetherington and Lenagan were quite happy for reform because they were happy to take Hunslet and South Wales. That is something that people are now regretting and the RFL did not want. What a stupid decision that was. Pearson was quite happy to save a bit of cash in this area as well and Lee Radford came out and, rightly, criticised the decision of his club the other week. I understand that a RL owner is going to be looking at the interests of their own club, but surely it is in the interest of Wigan RFC and Leeds Rhinos to have a great competition? Oh, but it's ok at Wigan so Lenangan couldn't give one about anyone else. I admire the way he has negotiated deals for all their players that have gone, but on crucial decisions on the sports future he has dropped the ball IMO. Their insular views could kill the game. I know we need more money to come into the sport before any rise is viable, but to completely disregard any notion of a rise is down right stupid and comes across quite arrogant. I don't know McManus' or Moran's view on the salary cap, so any criticism of them is unjustified. However, they were more than happy to oppose the youth re-structuring from the off and that shows that they do not hold the attitudes of Lenagan and Co. This is what happens when you allow people who have conflicting interests to vote on matters that are crucial to the future of the sport.

Take a look at this article by the Wigan Chairman Ian Lenagan: http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-5625250 Is it me that thinks 'what a bell' when reading this? It is the incredibly insular people within RL like Ian Lenagan, Gary Hetherington and Adam Pearson that will ultimately be the death of RL in this country. That article is a complete nonsense, especailly this part: “WE have no problem with the salary cap at all,” the Warriors chairman said. “I don’t think it should go up. I'M perfectly comfortable with it. WE'RE not having a problem with it. “Why would I want to pay more money than WE are? It's all about what happens at Wigan: that is such a damaging way to look at situations like this. Take, for example, the youth re-structuring. Hetherington and Lenagan were quite happy for reform because they were happy to take Hunslet and South Wales. That is something that people are now regretting and the RFL did not want. What a stupid decision that was. Pearson was quite happy to save a bit of cash in this area as well and Lee Radford came out and, rightly, criticised the decision of his club the other week. I understand that a RL owner is going to be looking at the interests of their own club, but surely it is in the interest of Wigan RFC and Leeds Rhinos to have a great competition? Oh, but it's ok at Wigan so Lenangan couldn't give one about anyone else. I admire the way he has negotiated deals for all their players that have gone, but on crucial decisions on the sports future he has dropped the ball IMO. Their insular views could kill the game. I know we need more money to come into the sport before any rise is viable, but to completely disregard any notion of a rise is down right stupid and comes across quite arrogant. I don't know McManus' or Moran's view on the salary cap, so any criticism of them is unjustified. However, they were more than happy to oppose the youth re-structuring from the off and that shows that they do not hold the attitudes of Lenagan and Co. This is what happens when you allow people who have conflicting interests to vote on matters that are crucial to the future of the sport.

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:00 pm  

It's a none issue. Insufficient numbers of clubs can afford the cap as it is, raising it is simply not possible.

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:44 pm  

Erm aren't there another 12 clubs to vote against anything they propose? and Ian Lenagan is doing a great job at Wigan.

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:50 pm  

Get your facts right,radford had a go at the rl system of getting rid of the old a team matches, not against hull fc

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:48 pm  

Albion wrote:

WE have no problem with the salary cap at all,” the Warriors chairman said.

Is this the same chairman that asked for and got permission to break the salary cap so that they could keep hold of Ratface??

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:56 pm  

Dont you think that perhaps this was a response to Dr Koukash's remarks that a salary cap of £1.65m was "crazy"?
At the current amount Dr K can't just go out and buy a new squad.
The DR is mentioned in the full statement anyway!

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:39 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

Dont you think that perhaps this was a response to Dr Koukash's remarks that a salary cap of £1.65m was "crazy"?
At the current amount Dr K can't just go out and buy a new squad.
The DR is mentioned in the full statement anyway!

If there was no cap certain clubs, Salford being one would just go out and pay silly unsustainable money for players. They would be the Man City of Superleague which would be great for them until the good Dr got bored or kicked the bucket then they would sink faster than the titanic just as City would do if Monsour (sp?) did a runner.

The previous regime at Wigan would have done exactly the same (as they did before ) but I doubt Pollard would. Saying that no cap or a significant increase would just widen the rich and poor gap even more than it already is and make SL even more boring an predictable

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:45 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

Dont you think that perhaps this was a response to Dr Koukash's remarks that a salary cap of £1.65m was "crazy"?
At the current amount Dr K can't just go out and buy a new squad.
The DR is mentioned in the full statement anyway!

Talk's cheap and Dr Koukash certainly seems to like a headline. Mind you appointing Brian Smith as coach would have made one hell of a statement but apparently his wage demands were too much; funny that there's no cap on coaches wages.

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:51 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Talk's cheap and Dr Koukash certainly seems to like a headline. Mind you appointing Brian Smith as coach would have made one hell of a statement but apparently his wage demands were too much; funny that there's no cap on coaches wages.

To be fair Nobby has a better record than Smith when it comes to winning things

Personally I'm glad he's gone british .

Re: Are the likes of Lenagan, Hetherington&CO killing the ga : Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:04 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

If there was no cap certain clubs, Salford being one would just go out and pay silly unsustainable money for players. They would be the Man City of Superleague which would be great for them until the good Dr got bored or kicked the bucket then they would sink faster than the titanic just as City would do if Monsour (sp?) did a runner.

The previous regime at Wigan would have done exactly the same (as they did before ) but I doubt Pollard would. Saying that no cap or a significant increase would just widen the rich and poor gap even more than it already is and make SL even more boring an predictable

Yes, but if we have rich men wanting to throw money at our game, we shouldn't be stopping them.
Clubs should have a cap to keep them safe, but if someone like the doctor could personally guarantee / finance contracts in excess of the cap, then why should we stop them? It would certainly help keep our lads in our game.