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We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 7:07 pm  
He isn't one. Period.

His game is suffering massively with the burden of organising the attack crushing him flat.

If this is allowed to carry on for much longer he'll be washed up.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 8:43 pm  
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He isn't one. Period.

His game is suffering massively with the burden of organising the attack crushing him flat.

If this is allowed to carry on for much longer he'll be washed up.



It doesn't help having lance hohaia at stand off with him, he's utter rubbish and we can't keep going with him.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:37 pm  
You did the same with Eastmond and havnt learnt anything from that experience. Both devastating ball runners so why try and make them ball players.

It's time to move lomax or wheeler to fb, loyalty to wellens is not helping saints move forward.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:43 pm  
Never a scrumhalf. Never will be. He could be effective there with someone alongside him to do all the organising, kicking and creating, but when that man is Hohaia then he's dead meat as soon as he comes up against any top defence. I think we need the season to end right about now and to start again next season from scratch with a proper half-back pairing, preferably with an actual #7 and #6 playing #7 and #6....
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:44 pm  
Better start partnering him with Gaskell soon. Have it from a good source his head has been turned by an offer from Wigan for next season. A run in the first team is what will keep Gaskell focased.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:58 pm  
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It doesn't help having lance hohaia at stand off with him, he's utter rubbish and we can't keep going with him.


NEITHER player is helped by their positions and roles within the team. One sure-fire way to destroy any player's confidence is to give him the role of primary tactical kicker (and co-playmaker) despite the fact that he has no recent experience of such, doesn't know his team-mates fully and with a perfectly good stand-off sat on the bench who can kick the leather off the ball.

Hohaia is a decent second kicker, but never more than that. We know from experience that you need talent to be a good kicker. Yes, training can get you pretty far. But Leon Pryce had all the training in the world (more than Hohaia will have received) and two years later he was still kicking up-and-unders behind his own head.

That said, Hohaia does have very fast hands. He might not be a genuine ball handler but he doesn't half put some zip on it. He's ideally suited to hooker (especially with his prodigious workrate and tackling) and he could also be a useful scrum half. Provided his responsibility is to give Gaskell all the ball he needs and quickly I reckon he'd prove far more valuable than current worth.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 9:59 pm  
So Wigan are tapping up contracted players are they, I do hope they have permission from Saints.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 10:01 pm  
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Better start partnering him with Gaskell soon. Have it from a good source his head has been turned by an offer from Wigan for next season. A run in the first team is what will keep Gaskell focased.



If Wigan have been making offers to players in contract they will be in a bit of trouble :lol:
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 10:02 pm  
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NEITHER player is helped by their positions and roles within the team. One sure-fire way to destroy any player's confidence is to give him the role of primary tactical kicker (and co-playmaker) despite the fact that he has no recent experience of such, doesn't know his team-mates fully and with a perfectly good stand-off sat on the bench who can kick the leather off the ball.

Hohaia is a decent second kicker, but never more than that. We know from experience that you need talent to be a good kicker. Yes, training can get you pretty far. But Leon Pryce had all the training in the world (more than Hohaia will have received) and two years later he was still kicking up-and-unders behind his own head.

That said, Hohaia does have very fast hands. He might not be a genuine ball handler but he doesn't half put some zip on it. He's ideally suited to hooker (especially with his prodigious workrate and tackling) and he could also be a useful scrum half. Provided his responsibility is to give Gaskell all the ball he needs and quickly I reckon he'd prove far more valuable than current worth.



His kicking is the worst I've seen at any level of rugby and I mean even kids level, its just utter shocking.

Totally and utterly crazy idea bringing him in to play halfback.
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Re: We are killing Lomax at scrum half. : Sun May 27, 2012 10:11 pm  
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If Wigan have been making offers to players in contract they will be in a bit of trouble :lol:


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