What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:29 pm  

I mean REALLY crash. To the point where it is patently obvious players are going backwards in terms of their careers?

Do we stick with Keiron & Mike Rush? Can we AFFORD to stick with them? I imagine Nathan Brown won't be too happy if he has to spend valuable pre-season time coaching out a load of bad habits.

Do we bring in someone else? Maybe - heaven forbid - a "stablising" coach on short-term pay (of Kear standard)?

I can't see us begging Huddersfield to release Brown early and paying substantial compensation.

It's all well and good thinking such won't happen but I'm sure most fans thought our current situation wouldn't happen.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:35 pm  

If in this unlikely event, i'd imagine a Kear/Noble type would be brought in on a short deal.

But we'd have to really crash. We've got 2 wins out of the last 3 that i didnt expect, so we're 4 points up from what i expected

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:37 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

I mean REALLY crash. To the point where it is patently obvious players are going backwards in terms of their careers?

Do we stick with Keiron & Mike Rush? Can we AFFORD to stick with them? I imagine Nathan Brown won't be too happy if he has to spend valuable pre-season time coaching out a load of bad habits.

Do we bring in someone else? Maybe - heaven forbid - a "stablising" coach on short-term pay (of Kear standard)?

I can't see us begging Huddersfield to release Brown early and paying substantial compensation.

It's all well and good thinking such won't happen but I'm sure most fans thought our current situation wouldn't happen.

It's obvious that two "coaches" that have never coached SL level, Rush and KFC don't have the necessary experience. I'd assumed that KFC would at least be able to motivate the players but that's got to be called into question after friday too.

An interim coach is the right call before the rot sets in and NB spends his first season rebuilding a squad without any confidence.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:59 pm  

What is the Russians drop a nuclear bomb on St Helens. Is Langtree Park insured?

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:06 pm  

As I've said from the start of Roycegate, this season could very quickly and easily turn into a disaster from here on. It might not, but very easily could. And if it does assume the shape of a pear then there's no way we could make another temporary change and we're stuck with whatever happens. We'd almost certainly have been better off with the players and board sucking it up and making the best of it with Royce for the rest of the season, and the road we're now committed to is a tremendous, enormously huge risk. We may not have had much choice with whatever the mystery behind the scenes shenanigans were, but the sacking was a risk nevertheless. Fingers are crossed.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:19 pm  

We'd be no worse off than we were before rush and KC came in.

After that Bulls game, you just couldn't see where the next win was coming from. Then we go and pull out two great wins against teams who were flying.

There was nothing in the Wigan performance to suggest a crash was on the way, let alone one of biblical proportions the like that would warrant emergency action.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:34 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

We'd be no worse off than we were before rush and KC came in.

After that Bulls game, you just couldn't see where the next win was coming from. Then we go and pull out two great wins against teams who were flying.

There's nothing to say the players wouldn't have turned things round under Royce. Let's be honest, after the goings-on following the Grand Final, we were always going to be motivated for the Leeds game.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:40 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

There's nothing to say the players wouldn't have turned things round under Royce. Let's be honest, after the goings-on following the Grand Final, we were always going to be motivated for the Leeds game.

By the same token there is nothing to say we cant turn this defeat around,after the loss to Wigan the team are going to be motivated to win.

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:55 pm  

McClennan wrote:

What is the Russians drop a nuclear bomb on St Helens. Is Langtree Park insured?

Re: What happens if performances crash this year? : Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:09 pm  

What happens if we win the GF with KC and rush?
What happens if we win the CC with KC and Rush?
What happens if 1 + 1 does not equal 2?
What happens if we win the next 4 league games?
What happens if we win 2 and lose 2 games?
What happens if Wigan go on a losing streak of 7 games?
What .....................

You get the point, it's a very negative point of view to take. Currently this team are 2 out of 3.
Royce and Purtill were 2 out of 7,

I understand people get joy out of misery, but jes' it's a loss to Wigan which I think every Saints coach has had in there day. I see no reason for our performances to crash. People talk like having an untested coach is an impossibility. Well how many teams did hanley coach before coming to Saints?

Rush has years and we mean years of coaching under his belt. So what if he was not a head coach, Royce was hardly dripping with head coach experrience, his job was with guess it............................................................ the youth team structure.

Saying we would have turned it round under Royce to get the previous 2 wins well, there was nothing to show that was going to happen. Under Royce would we have dropped the back on the bench, moved meli back to the wing, dropped gaskell, started lance at 6, not rotated the wingers each week, played josh jones, etc etc etc....

Under Royce it was going to be more of the same. Hence why on other threads people claim Leeds where not ready for us in that game. I just hope after the next set of games if performances are good again we don't have people holding on waiting for another loss somewhere down the track to say the end is nigh.