Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:54 pm  

I have been having a discussion with our less intelligent friends from the other side of 'Th Lump' and I believe that Rangi Chase deserves far more credit than he has recieved this year. They argue that it is easy for him to stand out in an 'average' side whereas I believe its harder to get true recognition for your work when surrounded by weaker players as you have very little support for example not much platform to play off.

Am I right or wrong

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:38 pm  

No you pick and choose which questions to answer Sam is the best player in the league by quiet a bit doesn't mean people think Chase is rubbish

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:42 pm  

king warrior wrote:

No you pick and choose which questions to answer Sam is the best player in the league by quiet a bit doesn't mean people think Chase is rubbish

Quite?

Believe it or not not everything is about Wigan and your pecious little SAM. I was stating a fact about Chase and you thought it would be worth singins Tomkins praise and other past Wigan players.

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:50 pm  

I think its great news that he's shown loyalty and sticking with Cas next season. They gave him his chance to prove himself in super league and he must be greatful for that. You don't get that much these days because players just move for money. Going to Wigan, Warrington or any other top team doesn't mean it will work out good for him. What will Ratchford achieve at Warrington? I think he will struggle to get to get into the team.

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:56 pm  

Longys full sleeve wrote:

I have been having a discussion with our less intelligent friends from the other side of 'Th Lump' and I believe that Rangi Chase deserves far more credit than he has recieved this year. They argue that it is easy for him to stand out in an 'average' side whereas I believe its harder to get true recognition for your work when surrounded by weaker players as you have very little support for example not much platform to play off.

Am I right or wrong

Works both ways. At cas, he's the big fish, everything goes through him and all the other players will follow his lead. If he moved to a club with more big names and had to fit in with a different game plan, it may not suit.
Look how Danny Orr faired for Wigan after starring for Cas 1st time round.

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:05 pm  

rally2001 wrote:

I think its great news that he's shown loyalty and sticking with Cas next season. They gave him his chance to prove himself in super league and he must be greatful for that. You don't get that much these days because players just move for money. Going to Wigan, Warrington or any other top team doesn't mean it will work out good for him. What will Ratchford achieve at Warrington? I think he will struggle to get to get into the team.

it's not a case of staying loyal, he now has been found guilty of an offence that carries a custodial sentence, said sentence is suspended at the moment, if he leaves Castleford he has to re-apply for a visa, which the smart money says he wouldn't get.

to answer the question, yes, he deserves way more credit than the goon fans are prepared to give, but likewise "Stupendous Sam" isn't quite the messiah they think he is, one day soon he'll get thumped for his whining and cheating ways by someone bigger who doesn't care about the consequences.

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:08 pm  

I'm glad that Rangi Chase plays for us.

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:45 pm  

Longys full sleeve wrote:

I have been having a discussion with our less intelligent friends from the other side of 'Th Lump' and I believe that Rangi Chase deserves far more credit than he has recieved this year. They argue that it is easy for him to stand out in an 'average' side whereas I believe its harder to get true recognition for your work when surrounded by weaker players as you have very little support for example not much platform to play off.

Am I right or wrong

I'm with you. You just need to remember how little airtime the up and coming players at Quins get - and Dan Sargeson (sp?) may be a genius but would we know? - to realise that being in a team that doesn't have cash to burn and influence to make means it is more difficult to prove yourself as a fine player. Also, it is quite likely that the team around you will not all play to your standard, so the chances to truly shine will be difficult to come by. Rangi Chase shows flashes of brilliance in most of the matches I have watched him playing - that pass at Hull KR for example was just amazing (far better than anything Sam Tomkins has come up with, that's for sure!). But playing with players who are not as good as he is means that that talent will always be pegged back. Yet in spite of that, Rangi Chase still manages to show those flashes of brilliance.

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:58 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

I'm glad that Rangi Chase plays for us.

he's lucky to be playing for anyone the naughty naughty boy

Re: Rangi Chase...Right or Wrong? : Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:59 pm  

nikos wrote:

he's lucky to be playing for anyone the naughty naughty boy

cough "gareth" cough "hock" cough?