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Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:56 pm  
Would like to know peoples opinions on it?

On paper it looks decent. I know we cant really judge without seeing and I hope our spending isnt done yet.

Suppose the recruiting could've been worse and were overun with 2nd rowers but is next years squad going to win us trophy's? I would think not.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:09 pm  
It's passable. It's not the big bang everyone expected and the club hinted at when the stadium was announced. If we're really spending the full cap we're wasting a lot of money other clubs don't as their depth is better.

We don't have a fullback, one of the three main players in modern teams.

We are two props short of where we need to be, even if we move TP there fulltime.

We are about 3 or 4 senior players short in overall squad depth.

If I had been in charge I would have signed two from Flower, Griffin, O'Hara and signed another couple from them just for depth.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:12 pm  
Comparing the squad quality and depth against the likes of Warrington Wigan and Huddersfield I think one too many players are taking a fair wedge of £££ home, again if we get a few injuries we'll struggle.

Whereas Wire and Wigan can loan out the likes of Mitchell Riley B.Davies etc etc we don't get that option as we seriously lack depth.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:14 pm  
Whose going to be filling the void left by James Graham ? Thats one big gap you'll need to plug, the metres he makes per game will be hard to replace.

Anthony Laffranchi is a good signing, no nonsense with a high work rate. Still think you need some serious work doing to that backline to make it a threat, Jodie Broughton or Tom Briscoe would be prolific for you if you could put them with a class centre in the mould of Lyon or Gidley, yeh i know they are hard to find but you have found them before.

Obviously you need to sort out which are going to be your starting half backs and stick with them, you have a few options. Getting the half backs right as you know is important, Rangi Chase would have been ideal as you need some X factor in the half backs but not sure what your quota situation is at the min.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:16 pm  
The likes of Wello, Gardner and Leon are probably earning way beyond their contribution this season because of what they were when they last signed up. Ade for example was probably an international and looked the best winger in SL when he signed his last deal. Wello probably still had the use of his legs.

I think we've fallen down because we've put so much faith and investment into the young players and they've not been good enough. If the likes of Dixon, Ashurst, Frodsham etc were where Mossop, Farrell and co were for the Goons we'd look stronger. At the moment one or two injuries in any position and our bench becomes incredibly brittle.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:19 pm  
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Whose going to be filling the void left by James Graham ? Thats one big gap you'll need to plug, the metres he makes per game will be hard to replace.

Laffranchi LMS Clough and with alot of back rowers I suspect Puletua will move to Prop, however we're being linked with Flower (likely to go to Hudds) and O'Hara

Anthony Laffranchi is a good signing, no nonsense with a high work rate. Still think you need some serious work doing to that backline to make it a threat, Jodie Broughton or Tom Briscoe would be prolific for you if you could put them with a class centre in the mould of Lyon or Gidley, yeh i know they are hard to find but you have found them before.

I've been saying for 18 months Saints need someone like Broughton but saying that Makinson isn't slow either and we mustn't forget only just starting his career.

Obviously you need to sort out which are going to be your starting half backs and stick with them, you have a few options. Getting the half backs right as you know is important, Rangi Chase would have been ideal as you need some X factor in the half backs but not sure what your quota situation is at the min.

We'll have Hohaia, Lomax, Gaskell, Wheeler and according to reports Pryce aswell. Who plays where is the million dollar question
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:02 pm  
If Leon stays it is a sure fire guarantee that either Lomax or Hohaia is down to play fullback next season.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:13 pm  
I cant understand why we have so many 2nd rowers? :s
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:16 pm  
Saint94 wrote:
I cant understand why we have so many 2nd rowers? :s


We don't:

Wilkin
Flanagan
Flannery
Moore (If he stays)
Soliola

Clough, Maggennis, Puletua and Laffranchi are now props.

Ashurst and Dixon aren't worth dicussing and will leave IMO.
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Re: Recruitment for 2012 : Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:23 pm  
Saddened! wrote:
We don't:

Wilkin
Flanagan
Flannery
Moore (If he stays)
Soliola

Clough, Maggennis, Puletua and Laffranchi are now props.

Ashurst and Dixon aren't worth dicussing and will leave IMO.


But at the moment we do have loads? I would say at least two of your four 'props' are second rowers
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