I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:52 pm  

....... Until we invest in some quality backs we will continue to be the nearly men that we've been fir the last 4 years.

We've no goto players in the backs, no x factor players in the backs and not enough creativity or pace.

I actually feel sorry for our forward pack as it matches any team in super league and then no end product as we dont create enough chances and were not clinical enough.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:59 pm  

Agree to an extent - we are a bit like the England RU team has been for 10 years or so.

I think in Hohia, Meli and Lomax we have some leading team ability.

Foster is ok given his kicking.

Shenton may develop if we can get a better right hand attack.

But we defo need 2 backs - with PACE.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:02 pm  

What about Jodie broughton from Salford seen him beat a man a few times and has bags of pace???

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:03 pm  

Nothing wrong with our threequarters.

However for them to be set free, you need a fast fullback. On the occasions when we did shift it wide, the Pies merely slid across and ignored Wello because when he did get the ball he was slow chiming into the line and the back rowers could get across. You need people chiming into the line faster than the 2nd rowers, so they get stretched. That then sucks in the centres and your centres get the space to operate.

Oh and if the only coaching move is "Get it wide" then i'm sorry but that isnt good enough. You need players running angles and offering options. We arent doing that. Infact we look like Hull in that all we did was chuck it wide and hope. With modern day defences that is quite frankly moronic.

Wigan could have defended against us all night against such a predictable attack. Most boring rugby ive seen since Eric Hughes was in charge

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:05 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Nothing wrong with our threequarters.

I don't know how you can say that. Completely blinkered from our failings.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:06 pm  

Harborne Saint wrote:

Agree to an extent - we are a bit like the England RU team has been for 10 years or so.

I think in Hohia, Meli and Lomax we have some leading team ability.

Foster is ok given his kicking.

Shenton may develop if we can get a better right hand attack.

But we defo need 2 backs - with PACE.

Teams don't even need to worry about getting there kicking game right against us because our back three can't beat a man. They could kick straight down our back three throats and still not worry the the opposition.

We just haven't got the backs to win big game abd if you don't win big games we don't win cups.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:07 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Nothing wrong with our threequarters.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:11 pm  

Foster to full back broughton on the wing lomax should stay in the halves. Lomax to fullback if pryce stays. Plus got options then and options with pace !! Think makinson will be a good un in another year or so and he too is pacey

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:11 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Nothing wrong with our threequarters.

Sorry mate but I strongly disagree. Im not saying our backs ate total rubbish but they ain't good enough for us to win anything with. And this ain't sour grapes as I've said it for past 18 month.

Wello - to slow, no attack.
Foster - no great pace, no side step, no size and can't beat a man but very good goal kicker.
Shenton - average centre, doesn't get enough ball and can he liability in defence.
Meli - good with ball but never a centre
Makinson- I think this lad could become good winger
Pryce - vital to saints but goes missing in big games
Lomax - is he a scrumhalf?

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:13 pm  

Mr Miagi wrote:

Foster to full back broughton on the wing lomax should stay in the halves. Lomax to fullback if pryce stays. Plus got options then and options with pace !! Think makinson will be a good un in another year or so and he too is pacey

Foster to fullback wouldn't be any better than we have at the moment with wello. Sure enough, foster is faster but he can't beat a man.