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2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:24 am  
As it stands....

Lomax/Wellens
Makinson
Shenton
Meli
Foster
Hohaia <officially signed as a 6>
Lomax/<are there any standby scrum halfs>


Perry <if capable of starting a game>
Roby
Laffranchi
Wilkin
Clough / Wellens <if denounced from full back>
TP

Moore <if not in bother>
LMS
Magennis
Wheels <token back>


Do we need more signings or do we offer new deals to Flannery, Pryce & Gardener?
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:49 am  
You've missed Soliola. Wheeler will be injured for next season.
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:51 am  
Looking at the list and it's dire in terms of strength in depth. Any injuries anywhere and we're down to the bare bones. Teams like Wigan, Wire, Huddersfield, Hull have 20-22 senior players or younger players that are already good enough. We don't have 17.

I'd like to see us resign all of Flannery, Gardner and Pryce. If we don't we'll be massively lacking in depth next year, even worse than we are this.
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:54 am  
I think we will line-up something similar to:

Wellens, Gardner, Shenton, Meli, Foster, Hohaia, Lomax, Perry, Roby, Laffranchi, Soliola, Wilkin, TP.

Clough, LMS, Flannery, Wheeler

However, I would personally like to see:

Lomax, Gardner, Shenton, Meli, Foster, Pryce, Hohaia, Perry, Roby, Laffranchi, Soliola, Wilkin, Wellens

TP, Clough, LMS, Wheeler
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:58 am  
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Teams like Wigan, Wire, Huddersfield, Hull have 20-22 senior players or younger players that are already good enough. We don't have 17.


Give over.

So Hull have "20-22 senior players or younger players that are already good enough" and "we don't have 17", yet we're sat 6 points clear of them despite having so many injuries.

Reverse the positions and put a fit/happy Eastmond/Pryce into the Saints side and take Brough/Brown out of the Hudds halves (and Tomkins/Deacon from Wigan and Briers/Myler from Wire) all season and how do you think the table would look?

Don't exaggerate so much, you make decent points when you're being sensible.
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:58 am  
Wigan's bench this season is likely to feature:

Hock
Lima
Fielden
Hansen/Farrell

Can we really compete with that, this or next season without at least 2, if not 4 signings?
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:02 am  
FearTheVee wrote:
Give over.

So Hull have "20-22 senior players or younger players that are already good enough" and "we don't have 17", yet we're sat 6 points clear of them despite having so many injuries.

Reverse the positions and put a fit/happy Eastmond/Pryce into the Saints side and take Brough/Brown out of the Hudds halves (and Tomkins/Deacon from Wigan and Briers/Myler from Wire) all season and how do you think the table would look?

Don't exaggerate so much, you make decent points when you're being sensible.


I'm not exaggerating. Our squad depth isn't good enough. For about the last 6 or 7 years we have released signed fewer players into the club than we have released. The difference being made up by academy products all the time. I might be wrong, but I just get the feeling if you listed the number of experienced players in each squad, we'd have the least. Might be because we've had 5.16 out per game this season mind.
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:04 am  
Saddened! wrote:
Wigan's bench this season is likely to feature:

Hock
Lima
Fielden
Hansen/Farrell

Can we really compete with that, this or next season without at least 2, if not 4 signings?


Why not for goodness sake?

A pack of Perry/Roby/Laffranchi/Soliola/Wilkin/Flannery with a bench of TP/LMS/Clough/Wheeler is good enough to mix it with any team, including the unbeatable (as they apparently now are) Wigan.
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:04 am  
There was a thread about this exact subject from 2011, created around June 2010 where we discuss this exact subject. I mention our weak squad depth and Wheeler being a biscuit and how he won't play 12 games and Blobby guarantees he'll play 20. ;)
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Re: 2012 Squad : Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:08 am  
Saddened! wrote:
Wigan's bench this season is likely to feature:

Hock
Lima
Fielden
Hansen/Farrell

Can we really compete with that, this or next season without at least 2, if not 4 signings?


Our bench next season could be LMS, TP, Clough, Wheeler/Pryce.

In short, of course we can bloody compete!! To suggest we need 4 signings just to have a competitive bench is complete and utter nonsense.

I know your name gives a lot away, and fortunately I have not had the misfortune of reading all of your 17000+ posts, but you really are the most depressing person I have ever come across.
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