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Re: Catalans game : Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:38 pm  
You can't really blame Morgan for being disinterested given how rarely the ball goes to the right and the players he has alongside him. Owens and Peyroux are hardly inspiring team mates.
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Re: Catalans game : Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:35 am  
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The stats against Catalan show Morgan had 10 carries for 113 metres while Percival had 9 carries for 69 metres.

Now considering that the ball tends to go to the left were Percival is, then that would indicate that he is pulling his weight when he gets offered the ball.

For me the problem is Peyroux, in that he naturally cuts inside and kills the ball moving out. LMS is far more willing to shift the ball out, and it was noticeable that with LMS replacing Peyroux, that Morgan got more ball.

Hopefully Saints will see sense and move Peyroux to the bench where he can provide cover.

I also am a bit old school in that i want wingers and centres to play on the wing and not be misused as additional props down the middle. One of the issues we have in recent years is an obsession with following the Bulls complex of having what are in essence forwards playing on the wing. We did this with Meli and Gardner. This obsession with size can certainly get you to finals, but as shown with the Bulls and Saints it tends to come up short in the big games, when pace trumps size.

Wigans recent success is built on pace. Leeds before was built on pace. Saints before that was built on pace.

The teams defeated in finals against the aforementioned sides eg the Bulls and Saints tended to be big battering ram sides. With little LOFA (length of field ability).


Gardner?
My memory of him was not as a big tough unit.
And Meli might have been big, but he was as soft as cow muck.
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Re: Catalans game : Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:49 am  
saint at wire wrote:
Gardner?
My memory of him was not as a big tough unit.
And Meli might have been big, but he was as soft as cow muck.



Gardner returned the ball really hard,showed no fear going into contact.
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Re: Catalans game : Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:11 am  
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Gardner returned the ball really hard,showed no fear going into contact.


Fair enough, but this was in the context of the Chair's comments:
One of the issues we have in recent years is an obsession with following the Bulls complex of having what are in essence forwards playing on the wing
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All I was saying is that Gardner was not in essence like a forward size-wise, as he was saying.
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Re: Catalans game : Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:19 am  
saint at wire wrote:
Fair enough, but this was in the context of the Chair's comments:
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All I was saying is that Gardner was not in essence like a forward size-wise, as he was saying.



Oh i don't know about that, wasn't he nearly 15 stone and 6ft2 ?
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