Which finishing SL position is best? : Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:01 pm  

IMO i believe that the current top 6 sides will stay in these positions come the seasons end,although not in these exact positions
Saints
Rhinos
Wigan
Warrington
Castleford
Huddersfield

So which finishing position do you think will reap the desired rewards for your club?

I want one of the big clubs to take the desired 5th place and see how easy it is to win from there as everyone deemed it the easy option when the Rhinos won it twice from there in 2011 and 2012

I personally believe that the GF winner will be between 3 clubs Wigan,Warrington or the Rhinos
thoughts guys.....

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:44 am  

Finish in top 4 and you get another chance if you lose your first match

So i'd be happy at that?

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:55 am  

It's an indictment of the current playoff system that the answer is 'it depends'. If, for example, Cas finished 3rd and Wigan finished 4th, I'd say we'd be better off finishing 2nd than 1st, as I think we'd have a much better chance of seeing off Cas than Wigan in a home playoff tie.

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:48 am  

9th. Because then the riot that resulted would end in McManus realising the team is utterly lacking.

Right now, I genuinely think he thinks we've got the best squad and just need a telling off every now and again to win Super League.

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:15 am  

Saddened! wrote:

9th. Because then the riot that resulted would end in McManus realising the team is utterly lacking.

Right now, I genuinely think he thinks we've got the best squad and just need a telling off every now and again to win Super League.

Some times you have moment of lucidness. Then you post this. Utterly lacking!!!

Like most teams it is lacking in places. Prop and 6 for me. But utterly lacking and finishing 9th is another hyperbolic statement to line up with the rest of em.

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:49 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Some times you have moment of lucidness. Then you post this. Utterly lacking!!!

Like most teams it is lacking in places. Prop and 6 for me. But utterly lacking and finishing 9th is another hyperbolic statement to line up with the rest of em.

He's an idiot!!! What do you expect.

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:55 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Some times you have moment of lucidness. Then you post this. Utterly lacking!!!

Like most teams it is lacking in places. Prop and 6 for me. But utterly lacking and finishing 9th is another hyperbolic statement to line up with the rest of em.

We're lacking positionally at 3,4, 6, 8 at least. Walsh is meant to be going and Roby is about to wear out after being flogged mercilessly since KC left. But more importantly we've got a coach who cannot motivate the players and no leader on the field. This will be 8 years since we won Super League and the milestone of 10 will soon pass. Maybe then you'll realise that we are lacking. The culture at the club smacks of middle of the road, risk averse, averageness and an unacceptable level of comfort with how average we are. It's okay to have Wellens still playing fullback, it's okay to go into a season with one centre for the fifth year running, it's okay to only have one genuine halfback in the squad. We don't need marquee signings because our youth is okay.......

Re: Which finishing SL position is best? : Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:08 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

We're lacking positionally at 3,4, 6, 8 at least. Walsh is meant to be going and Roby is about to wear out after being flogged mercilessly since KC left. But more importantly we've got a coach who cannot motivate the players and no leader on the field. This will be 8 years since we won Super League and the milestone of 10 will soon pass. Maybe then you'll realise that we are lacking. The culture at the club smacks of middle of the road, risk averse, averageness and an unacceptable level of comfort with how average we are. It's okay to have Wellens still playing fullback, it's okay to go into a season with one centre for the fifth year running, it's okay to only have one genuine halfback in the squad. We don't need marquee signings because our youth is okay.......

Contradiction alert.

Statement 1: were lacking a 3,4, ...
Statement 2: were going into a season with only 1 centre.

Unless your suggesting 3 and 4 aren't the positions of centre, both statements (like most others in that little rant) can't be true.

Like it or not, Turner (whom I assume is the "real centre" you say), Percival and Jones will be our centres next year. Percival and Jones are young but capable and in the next few years will either sink or swim. The only way to find out is to play them.

6 is the big hole in our squad yes. Hopefully the bulk of the money freed up this year is going into bringing the best available in.

Wellens is in great form at the moment at fullback - and whilst that remains true, you can't really complain about it. He's filling in for the injured lomax, and the club have moved to make sure if wellens form drops or injury occurs were not exposed.

As for props, Amor, Walmsley, Boof, Masoe, LMS, Ghostmont, Richards and Thompson suggest were certainly not lacking numbers, but someone needs to step up to lead them. Amor is my best guess - but I equally don't think it's a quality that can necessarily be bought in - look at lms and his time at London, he bossed their pack and was the dominant voice, but he's never really taken hold at saints. Hopefully Amor will.

I've been saying a backup 9 should be a priority for a number of months now only to be told their are more important areas to focus on.

But, if were lacking so much and so average, what does that make the rest of the league?