Re: Makinson-Turner Overdrive : Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:49 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

It was no mistake to just let it run? At the very back end of a knock out game? Purlease

He didn't just let it run, it was nigh on impossible to get to. Have you ever tried to stop a ball that comes at that speed, moving through the air which then skids off the wet grass faster than it came in? I have and it's one of the hardest balls to get to, there is absolutely nothing he could have done, bar knocking it on which leads onto your next point...

SaintsFan wrote:

I'm not doubting it was a spiral bomb. I was there. I saw it. But Wello never shirked them and nor should Swift have done. Had he tried for it and got it then the drop goal farce would never have started. Had he tried for it and knocked on then we would have been no worse off. Truth is, he didn't even try for it.

This is completely wrong, wingers don't stand in goal, so if he had gone for it and knocked it on it would have been a scrum in our own 10m line. Rather than a drop out and Hudds picking up position on half way. That sort of field position and that point in the game is tactically huge.

Re: Makinson-Turner Overdrive : Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:08 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

He didn't just let it run, it was nigh on impossible to get to.

We'll agree to disagree on that one, since Swift is a favourite of yours.

This is completely wrong, wingers don't stand in goal, so if he had gone for it and knocked it on it would have been a scrum in our own 10m line. Rather than a drop out and Hudds picking up position on half way. That sort of field position and that point in the game is tactically huge.

I know they don't stand in goal. I didn't say anything about a drop out. Had he knocked on then Hudds would have gotten the ball back, which is what they did anyway, so things wouldn't have been any different and we would have 'enjoyed' the drop goal farce that played out. However, had he run that bit faster (which he's certainly capable of) and got the ball, we would have been in a stronger position and not know fielding hysteria over a drop goal that never was.

Re: Makinson-Turner Overdrive : Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:15 pm  

Should've attempted to go for it .

Mystery for me is why didn't Hudds go for a short kick off after our DG ???

Re: Makinson-Turner Overdrive : Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:34 pm  

Harry Pinner wrote:

Hmmm...

I have to say though that all the Brough and Ferres controversy has overshadowed what was one of the best tries I've ever seen. The second try we scored was amazing. My only concern is that Makinson has to realise there are other safer ways of putting the ball down without doing the dying swan every time. Sometimes just plonking it down is a safer bet.

Don't think Tommy has much choice with millimetres to spare and a couple of sets of knees in his back. Have you tried copying his move by diving onto to settee (minus the knees) with a ball? Great fun!

Re: Makinson-Turner Overdrive : Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:39 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Only a rugby league fan can complain over such a thing.

Not complaining, just making the point that safety is far more important than style. I've watched rugby for a long time and seen lots of players lose the ball by trying to.put it down one handed, either because they've been hit hard by a tackler or just because it's a very hard thing to do (Sonny Bill?). When it's the only way to score then of course he should do.it but otherwise the safer the better for me.

Re: Makinson-Turner Overdrive : Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:04 pm  

They don't compete for position so seems a bit ppointless to set them up against each other