Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:45 am  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I'm shocked at the outpouring of adulation for Burgess on here. Yes he looks impressive with ball in hand but he also looks dodgy under the high ball and positionally naive in defence. I wouldn't swap Swift for him.

Burgess looks good so far, but its very, very early days. How he does against Swifty and Percy against us will be telling as they're about the same age group and all quite nippy.
Personally, at the moment i'd back Swifty. He's done more in his short time in the first team

Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:04 am  

Bit of grass is always greener syndrome going on with Burgess - looks a cracking prospect but I certainly wouldn't swap him for Swift who has been a revelation since coming into the team.

Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:18 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Charnley has a bigger willy.

I'd like to know how you know this?

Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:24 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Don't get me wrong he's still a very good winger but I think both Hall and Briscoe are better.

Since moving to Leeds Briscoe suddenly looks like he did when he got his first international call up, only better. Obviously I've only seen him a couple of times on TV but from what I have seen he really does look top class.

Not so sure about Hall these days. I thought he fluffed his lines in the world cup a few times and he's been relatively quiet at Leeds lately. He's big, strong and pretty fast (for such a big bloke) but I don't think he's been hitting the heights of his earlier days over the last couple of seasons.

Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:59 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Since moving to Leeds Briscoe suddenly looks like he did when he got his first international call up, only better. Obviously I've only seen him a couple of times on TV but from what I have seen he really does look top class.

I always felt like I was missing something with Briscoe. It wasn't that I thought he was bad at anything, but didn't see the massive plus points others did (I put it down to not seeing a lot of Hull), but his long range try the other week was exceptional.

Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:45 am  

I think people are massively overrated Charnley, who's defence was non-existent against HKR, and Monaghan. There's only Hall and Briscoe for me that are a noticeable step up from Makinson and Swift. The likes of McGilvary and Carney can be a handful but don't have the finishing ability that Makinson has. We won't go far wrong with these two on the wings.

Re: Tommy Makinson : Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:05 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

How long has Charnley been Wigan's first choice winger? And when was Tommy allowed to become Saints' first choice winger? There you have the reason for Charnley's superior try scoring record AND his international caps. Charnley's defence is dodgy and always has been.

Yes, he can't defend for toffee - his positional sense in defence is very poor and always has been.

Defence - TM better
Attack - JC better

Overall, I would stick with TM given the choice.