Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:00 pm  

Southport Saint wrote:

Still rather have Jamie Lyon

And I'd rather have a Paul Newlove than him, but that doesn't make Lyon too shabby.

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:02 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

And I'd rather have a Paul Newlove than him, but that doesn't make Lyon too shabby.

Controversial ! Two different types of centre, I'd have Lyon out of the two (best player I've ever seen at Saints) but not by much

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:08 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Controversial ! Two different types of centre, I'd have Lyon out of the two (best player I've ever seen at Saints) but not by much

Nah, Newlove was the better centre. A more judicious player with better defence. Obviously they both had quality in spades.

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:14 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Nah, Newlove was the better centre. A more judicious player with better defence. Obviously they both had quality in spades.

Still say thats controversial! Cant really ever remember Lyon's defence ever being an issue, and he was far silkier with the ball (that said, I only saw Newlove in his last two seasons I believe!)

Just need Lyon to return for a swansong year in 2015!

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:26 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Still say thats controversial! Cant really ever remember Lyon's defence ever being an issue, and he was far silkier with the ball (that said, I only saw Newlove in his last two seasons I believe!)

Just need Lyon to return for a swansong year in 2015!

Newlove wasn't the same after he tore his Achilles. That may influence your decision.

Both of them were the best attacking centre in the league at their time (maybe even attacking player), but Newlove just made it look so easy.
You remember all those ridiculous passes that Lyon used to squeeze out the back to Gardner? They were often sensational - the one in the CC final at twickers springs to mind. However, plenty of those went to ground or in touch.
Newlove, on the other hand, never seemed to have that problem. Maybe his extra size afford him a little extra control.
defence wise was a similar story. Lyon wouldn't miss a tackle, but could get excited and rush out occasionally, which Newy never did.

Please don't let this sound like I don't think Jamie Lyon is one of the most sensational things I've seen on rugby pitch, because he is and, if reports are true, he's got better with age since he left us.

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:48 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Newlove wasn't the same after he tore his Achilles. That may influence your decision.

Both of them were the best attacking centre in the league at their time (maybe even attacking player), but Newlove just made it look so easy.
You remember all those ridiculous passes that Lyon used to squeeze out the back to Gardner? They were often sensational - the one in the CC final at twickers springs to mind. However, plenty of those went to ground or in touch.
Newlove, on the other hand, never seemed to have that problem. Maybe his extra size afford him a little extra control.
defence wise was a similar story. Lyon wouldn't miss a tackle, but could get excited and rush out occasionally, which Newy never did.

Please don't let this sound like I don't think Jamie Lyon is one of the most sensational things I've seen on rugby pitch, because he is and, if reports are true, he's got better with age since he left us.

I love newy but Lyon was a class above. Jamie Lyon is the perfect centre and probably the best one seen in a saints shirt. He's fast, athletic, skilful, can do things other players can't and he defence is as good as it gets. He was a real wingmans centre. He's also a legend at manly which shows what calibre of player he was.

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:23 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

And I'd rather have a Paul Newlove than him, but that doesn't make Lyon too shabby.

Still rather have Meninga myself.

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:48 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Still rather have Meninga myself.

I'm too young to have seen him at Saints

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:00 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Still rather have Meninga myself.

The man was a BEAST!!!!! His legs were as thick as most men's torso.

Re: Glesson on the season review the other night : Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:39 pm  

St pete wrote:

I love newy but Lyon was a class above.

I'd have them on a par. Newy was every bit as devastating as Lyon IMO, brilliant player.