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Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:29 am  
Saint Simon wrote:
http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_13555-saints-chairman-excited-by-re-structure.html
Sir Mac says hes happy with it now


Has he ever said he is unhappy with it?


McManus is the only one to come out publicly and say what he thinks. Lenegan has put his thoughts into the "leaked letter" - but hasn't publicly stated anything. None of the other Chairman have commented publicly.
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Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:52 am  
Are we sure he's talking about the RFL's proposed structure, and not an alternative agreed by the SL clubs in their emergency meeting last week? The things he's directly quoted as saying are ambiguous in this respect.
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Re: RFL has released its policy review document : Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:54 am  
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Sir Mac says hes happy with it now


Mac clearly says “There may be some areas of corporate governance and representation which need to be separately addressed and improved (from the current system which, ironically, was enthusiastically constructed and endorsed by Super League Clubs only five years ago) and I have no doubt that these can be rationally and sensibly resolved"

That for me is clear, Super League Clubs do not need to be controlled completely by The RFL any longer, which I fully support. Super League needs to form something similar to union and football with their Premierships, yes still members of their full associations but controlling their own destiny, such as sponsorship. Also that The RFL currently have a strong voice on Super League Europe which clubs see now is completely wrong. Yes much Chairman accept one up, one down will come in but Nigel Woods stupid idea I see much discussion and heated debate to come from Super League Clubs, bar Leeds for some reason? Of course Championship Clubs want it, to thank Nigel for his sweetener of a little more each year, how sad!
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Dux wrote:
Are we sure he's talking about the RFL's proposed structure, and not an alternative agreed by the SL clubs in their emergency meeting last week? The things he's directly quoted as saying are ambiguous in this respect.



Indeed, he talks about restructuring the leagues, but doesnt say which format he supports or which will be put in place.
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EHW wrote:
Indeed, he talks about restructuring the leagues, but doesnt say which format he supports or which will be put in place.


Too many people even media seem to be deciding what he is saying! ut would really shock me if he was to break away now from the rest of the Super League Clubs, he is just expressing what they all believe, Super League have to govern themselves and the RFL should not be members of the board of SLE as they are now. There is a further meeting set for next week of Super League Clubs, I hope they will stand firm, it does not mean they want to break away or break up The RFL,
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The thing is, it isn’t.

The problem with the top 8, 14 team league isn’t the 14 team league and top 8 per se. Its that it is too easy for some clubs to get in to the 8. Everything wrong with the league structure stems from the disparity between top and bottom. Whatever system we implement, these same issue will be apparent. If all clubs were of the quality of Leeds, Wire, Saints, Wigan, Hudds etc then it would be incredibly difficult to qualify for the top 8. You would need to be better than at least 6 teams over the season who were as good as the best clubs. Clubs would take more points from each other , the league would be more even, the teams at the top wouldn’t be safe and able to it down a gear because that would result in a loss, and a loss would put you in danger of missing the 8.

The reason we don’t have this is because the league as a whole doesn’t produce enough players, the reason we don’t produce enough players is that we A) don’t have enough amateur players and B) clubs don’t invest enough in youth development. The reason clubs don’t invest in youth development is because they argue they don’t have the money, the reason they don’t have the money is because they don’t have good enough facilities and we as a game don’t bring in enough commercial and sponsorship revenue, we don’t have a high enough visibility or good enough image. We don’t have these things because we don’t do a good enough job to bring in the commercial and sponsorship revenue, we don’t build visibility or present a good image and so on.

What we need to do is get the structure and governance right so that we make the right decisions, sell ourselves better, employ the right people who can increase commercial and sponsorship revenue, improve our image and visibility, force clubs to invest in youth development so we create a player pool and pathway capable of supporting the game, force them to invest in infrastructure and facilities so they can attract fans to pay for players and youth development. We need to make sure that we have the infrastructure, facilities and people in place to create a virtuous cycle of investments, returns, investment.

We get that in place and you can invent and implement any league structure at all that you want and we will have a strong vibrant growing game. If we don’t and we just implement a new league structure the same problems will exist, from dead rubber games, to big margins of victory, to not meeting attendance potential, to poor visibility, image, commercial and sponsorship revenue.


And my thoughts.

Your post is bang on the money.
How can we get more competitive by REDUCING the number of academies.
Do they expect Wigan, Leeds, Saints etc to keep ploughing their money into youth development to then feed the rest of the clubs.

The U19's has been a disaster. Wigan have literally strolled through the season. How does that prepare those players for the next step in their careers. The clubs should be forced to spend more money on their youth systems.
And now we have the ludicrous decision to INCREASE the number of overseas players.

It should be the other way round.
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