Re: The new recruits. : Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:00 am  

Looking forward to seeing them all play.

To choose one though, it would have to be Manu. Devastating at hull and will give us lots of go forward and offloads.

I want to see Turner play to see if his defence can be improved. If so we will have a very good Centre.

Walmsley will need this season to settle in, so I don't expect much game time other than against the lower teams.

Re: The new recruits. : Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:32 am  

redex113 wrote:

I don't expect anything much from Walmersley for some time. It would be unfair to liken him to Chris Hill as there is quite an age gap. Hill was a mature player when joining super league; whereas Walmersley is a novice in comparison.

Exactly the point I was going to make.

Let's not put too much pressure on the lad...obvious comparisons with Hill, but different ages and different levels of experience. He's only just gone full time.

Re: The new recruits. : Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:08 pm  

Albion wrote:

Exactly the point I was going to make.

Let's not put too much pressure on the lad...obvious comparisons with Hill, but different ages and different levels of experience. He's only just gone full time.

If others are of the same viewpoint as me, I'm also not expecting to see him making England in his first season. I'm just looking forward to see his progression over his contractual period to see how he develops.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:21 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

If others are of the same viewpoint as me, I'm also not expecting to see him making England in his first season. I'm just looking forward to see his progression over his contractual period to see how he develops.

It would be stupid for anyone to expect him to make the England squad this coming season. He will probably play a dozen or so games, from the bench, against lower opposition. He will only play against top opposition due to injuries. It has to be understood that the gulf between Championship and Super league is vast and it will take at least a season to settle and get up to pace. He has also stepped up from part time so it will take time to build up fitness levels. We may start to see signs towards the back end of the season.

If he gets game time and starts playing very well then great, but this should not be expected this season. Talk of England is at best premature.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:39 am  

Top Saint wrote:

It would be stupid for anyone to expect him to make the England squad this coming season. He will probably play a dozen or so games, from the bench, against lower opposition. He will only play against top opposition due to injuries. It has to be understood that the gulf between Championship and Super league is vast and it will take at least a season to settle and get up to pace. He has also stepped up from part time so it will take time to build up fitness levels. We may start to see signs towards the back end of the season.

If he gets game time and starts playing very well then great, but this should not be expected this season. Talk of England is at best premature.

I think you completely misunderstood my reference of England, it was intended as an over emphasis. Either that or I misunderstood yours.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:53 am  

BackrowSaint wrote:

I think you completely misunderstood my reference of England, it was intended as an over emphasis. Either that or I misunderstood yours.

Actually, I was agreeing with you and reinforcing your point. Others within the forums seem to be expecting far too much far too soon.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:55 am  

Top Saint wrote:

Actually, I was agreeing with you and reinforcing your point. Others within the forums seem to be expecting far too much far too soon.

Looks like I completely misunderstood yours then.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:01 pm  

I,m suprised we have not given Turner more expectation. It was my understanding that he couldn,t handle all the travelling to Hull.
If he is in a settled environment here and Brown gets to work on him, i reckon he will be a much improved player, he can also play stand off so I believe.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:35 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I,m suprised we have not given Turner more expectation. It was my understanding that he couldn,t handle all the travelling to Hull.
If he is in a settled environment here and Brown gets to work on him, i reckon he will be a much improved player, he can also play stand off so I believe.

It's easier to rely on the assessment of bitter Hull fans (who largely only voiced such assessment once it was announced he was leaving for Saints) and already assume he is going to be a failure.

That way, you can spend each game eagerly anticipating any error he makes (while ignoring similar errors from your current favourites) so that you can blame McManus' poor recruitment / Brown's poor coaching etc.

If he doesn't make any mistakes, never mind, there's always Meli.

Personally, I'm really excited to have some pace and power in the centres and will judge him on his performances for Saints.

Potentially 3 top signings.

Re: The new recruits. : Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:30 pm  

Manu has got the no 13 shirt and I think he should play from the loose forward position and not second row. He has plenty of experience and he could create some kind of partnership with the not so healthy half back scenario.