Re: Warrington discussion : Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:42 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

A game won with determination and commitment. Our forwards took it to them in both defence and attacks and out defence outside was sensational.
Perry and LmS struggled bu Tony P, excelled and were well supported by v solid showings by Boof and Clough. Roby was also very busy.
However, the ball isn't getting to our centres wide of Wello. The kicking game was a real mixed bag. Hohhaia was pretty quiet and, while Lomax came up with some great plays, on the whole he's still struggling to impose himself as a halfback without the sufficient support.
I mentioned in another thread they needed a rocket up the booty for big games. We got that, but my other concerns for the side still ring true.

Our back play isn't going to get any better this year sadly. We have 2 halves who are basically there just to tackle, hand the ball off for forwards to make inside runs and make the odd scoot.

Re: Warrington discussion : Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:00 pm  

Super effort. Defense was as good as I've seen for a long while.

Patches of excellent play in attack.

However the kicking game was woeful (bar 2 repeat sets on 60-65 ish minutes).
Every clearing kick went straight to the defender and the couple of attacking kicks
were poor and panic, which put Saints under pressure. Lomax is great in broken play
but can't handle a 5 tackle play. Lance H coasts in attack and still hides behind the ptb.

That said the kick chase was off the chart and offset a lot of the weak kicking.

Neither HBs will turn into Long Briers or Brough with the boot in two weeks.
However some better kicking both clearance and 5th tackle would make a huge difference.

If lance would take Wellens spot on the wide plays there might be a bit more ball for the centres also
or at least a better last pass.

Can't knock the effort and Saints are giving it a real go and are taking it to the big boys.

Re: Warrington discussion : Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:43 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

The problem still comes when we have the ball. Some of the errors we made were shocking, Perry and LMS being the big culprits. Perry had a shocker and hopefully it was a one off and he'll play better next time. We need to make sure we're not giving away cheap ball and cheap penalties because Warrington, Leeds or Wigan will punish us if we keep gifting them possession. On the positive I actually thought we utilised our dummy runners and executed our set plays alot better yesterday than we have done for a while, which is good news. Hopefully with the week off we can sharpen up in this area in training because we were a threat at times yesterday. I also think our best ploy is our offloading which has worked well for us the last 2 weeks. When Puletua runs down the middle and offloads the ball it causes chaos as he attracts 2 and 3 defenders. You won't beat teams by playing one out rugby, you need to attack teams and we're at our best when we have a bit of space in broken field especially with Roby, Lomax and Hohaia supporting the offload.

Spot on sir. To me we looked stronger in the forwards by halfway through the first half. What was giving Wire the edge was that we were piggybacking them up the field or turning it over and putting pressure on ourselves. In our first serious possession down in their end we scored. It'll be very interesting next time because Tony Smith is a very strong tactician and I'm sure he'll look to exploit that Atkins side again.