Re: Rangi Chase : Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:39 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

The Aussies do it with islanders all the time

Exactly as do NZ - the Aussies just pick anyone who is eligible and good enough, isnt Willie Mason a kiwi?

Good enough for them good enough for us, we dont have enough quality players to be too picky

Re: Rangi Chase : Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:20 am  

Australia have no qualms about naming Akuila Uate who is Fijian ( and played for Fiji in the 2008 world cup ) in their squad and qualifies on residency so why shouldnt we name Chase in ours ? The Aussies and Kiwis allways fit in Tongans,Fijians ect if they are good enough.Jack Reed is a player that springs to mind imediatly on this topic,the Aussies wanted him to play for them so how would that of been different from Chase for us ?

Re: Rangi Chase : Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:12 am  

Toni Carroll is a prime example. Kiwi born and played 3 times for New Zealand in 2000 before qualifying for Australia on residency (hadn't played for his county for 3 years too) so the Aussies picked him in 2004.

Rules are rules, let's use them to our advantage just like everyone else.

Re: Rangi Chase : Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:55 am  

The Chief wrote:

Toni Carroll is a prime example. Kiwi born and played 3 times for New Zealand in 2000 before qualifying for Australia on residency (hadn't played for his county for 3 years too) so the Aussies picked him in 2004.

Rules are rules, let's use them to our advantage just like everyone else.

Exactly - although I will say I don't agree with switching countries once you've played for one at senior level, it makes the international game look even more mickey mouse than it already is.

In Yawnion didnt Martin Johnson play for NZ as a junior?

Re: Rangi Chase : Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:07 am  

No1 Saint wrote:

Exactly - although I will say I don't agree with switching countries once you've played for one at senior level, it makes the international game look even more mickey mouse than it already is.

In Yawnion didnt Martin Johnson play for NZ as a junior?

I agree with this, when you've played for your country at the top level you shouldn't be able to switch.

Re: Rangi Chase : Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:46 am  

Gareth widdop should be stand off for the 4 nation. Widdop at 6, lomax at 7....end of!!

Re: Rangi Chase : Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:00 am  

I only have a problem with switching countries, and even then only between the genuine RL nations - England, Aus, NZ, France and PNG. All other RL 'national teams' are fabrications to make up the numbers for international competitions. I don't understand why people get so upset about the likes of Brough playing for 'Scotland' then jumping to Enlgand, or Uate playing for 'Fiji'. Neither Scotland or Fiji really exist in RL terms.