Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:02 pm  

Ron wrote:

Foster is rubbish, if he didn't kick, I doubt he would be a SL player.

So rubbish he's scored three tries less than the top try scorer this year. That's playing outside a player who is apparently never a centre this year.

Yes, he's incredibly rubbish.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:09 pm  

Robonson wrote:

Foster emerging England Winger - says who? He's OK, he can kick a ball and is quick. What else does he offer?

Tries.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:44 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

Matty Blythe? John Clarke?
Pot Kettle Black.

Whats Matty Blythe or Jon Clarke got to do with anything ?

Lets make a comparison.

1. Michael Shenton a big signing from Cas who who will be on a very good contract and will be one of your top earners, Matty Blythe is basically a kid thats just starting out his career at this level and won't be on much money at all, he's not even a first choice player for us, a squad player thats been on dual reg at Leigh. Hmmmmmm

2. Jon Clarke, a player thats now in the last stages of his career compared to Scott Moore whose only 23. Clarke again is just a squad player so i'm not sure what your point us with any of the above 2.

We had to play Matty Blythe against Wigan because of the injuries to Harrison and Briers, Bridge went to 6 which means Blythe had to come in at right centre to cover for Bridge. He was obviously out of his depth at that level in a game of such importance, what was Shenton's excuse given that he was touted as being one of the best english centres in recent times who has also played for England ? Shenton looked out of his depth against Wigan which would be a worry given he is supposed to be one of (if not) the best english centres in the game. I'd take Chris Bridge all day long ahead of Shenton at right centre, just a pitty we couldn't play him at right centre against Wigan due to injuries.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:48 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

So rubbish he's scored three tries less than the top try scorer this year. That's playing outside a player who is apparently never a centre this year.

Yes, he's incredibly rubbish.

Wingers' try records are deceptive.

Put bluntly, me and you could have scored both of Foster's tries on Saturday. He had a total of about 4 yards to run.

We'd have been useless at just about everything else mind...

Darrell Goulding was the 2nd highest try scorer last year - he's not even close to being the 2nd best winger.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:50 pm  

I think it would be stupid not to play Lance at FB next year...lets be honest when you play in a position for so long like he has, you would be stupid to move him to HB unless it was a one off injury crisis...but they never happen at saints

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:55 pm  

Saint94 wrote:

I think it would be stupid not to play Lance at FB next year...lets be honest when you play in a position for so long like he has, you would be stupid to move him to HB unless it was a one off injury crisis...but they never happen at saints

I'd have Pryce there if recent news is true. He would work very well as a 3rd pivot I feel and isn't a stranger to Full Back. For me Lomax has to stay in the halves, he's the future of this club and that is his native position. As for Lance he has one major flaw, he can't catch a bomb. If you think Meli is bad for it wait until you see Hohaia. This problem is negated if he plays in the halves and so I feel it would best suit the team if he took 6/7. He also has a better kicking game than both Pryce and Lomax, especially short.

Re: I've said it before and I'll say it again..... : Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:55 pm  

Guerrier wrote:

Wingers' try records are deceptive.

Put bluntly, me and you could have scored both of Foster's tries on Saturday. He had a total of about 4 yards to run.

We'd have been useless at just about everything else mind...

Darrell Goulding was the 2nd highest try scorer last year - he's not even close to being the 2nd best winger.

We've seen that the lad can finish though, not all those tries have been falling over the line. It was asked what he brought to the team bar goal kicking, given the tribulations we've had as a team this year, he's done well to score an amount of tries comparable to the wingers at Wigan and Warrington, teams that have been far more fluent in attack with more settled teams than us this year.

I don't think Foster is the finished article, nor that he's in the top 2 wingers in the league. But he's shown that he has good hands, knows where the try line is, has a decent turn of pace, is safe under the high ball and isn't error prone.

I just find it a touch ridiculous to write him off as being not good enough now at 21 in his second season because he isn't ripping teams apart playing in a team with a winger as his centre, a full back that's as slow as a tug chiming into the line and has had two rookie half backs for most of the year.

Some players have obvious deficiencies that they never seem to get rid of, Goulding is a good example of that, Foster is not one of those players though.