Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:19 am  

As I said on another thread beating those two teams next proves nothing. Can he get the team to win in France and at Saints week after? If so then he starts to make amends but Smith is on thin thin ice

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:43 am  

The Eclipse wrote:

Not one player has improved under Smith, in fact they have all gone backwards.

Handley is significantly better but that is more.down to himself.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:04 am  

Wait until the end of the season then get rid. Also his assistant coaches. Big problem the mess he will leave behind, also is Hethrington capable of appointing his successor. After all Smith was his choice. Looking at his post match interview he may decide enough is enough. Finally some of the players need to take some responsibility for this shambles. Some of them need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:11 am  

Every year we hear soundbites about togetherness, rhinos DNA, this year it was 'the struggle', the other year it was burning sentimantal sht in a bin and turning it into a Rhinos head. All these gimmicks and we're still going backwards.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:15 am  

This is what I mean about culture, we’re exchanging hard work and high standards for short cuts and gimmicks at the top level and that is impacting every area of performance and leadership.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:32 am  

The Eclipse wrote:

Not one player has improved under Smith, in fact they have all gone backwards.

Quite a few players are better since Smith arrived. Off the top of my head:

Ash Handley, Jarrod O'Connor, Cameron Smith, and Tom Holroyd - of the current squad. Someone like Sam Walters also started looking the part despite not liking it at prop.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:47 am  

YoRhino wrote:

Time for Smith to go now for me. He hasn’t got it in him to turn this around and nor should be given a chance to. Win/loss record must be about the same as Agar with significantly more investment in that period.

Big question is who to replace him with. Hope uncle Tony hasn’t packed up yet? Wane? Tell Brian Mac all is forgiven? Probably just let Chev have a go…

I suggested Wane a few weeks ago

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:58 am  

Smithout wrote:

I suggested Wane a few weeks ago

You must be delighted with yesterday's result. You are probably not even a Leeds supporter.

There are probably good reasons Wane has not been brought in for the head coach role for another SL club. I would struggle to see him fitting in at Headingley.

If we do decide the change the coach, a successful appointment for me would be someone who is capable of getting the most out of the current squad, which has been expensively assembled, much of which is under contract for next season and beyond, and features a growing number of young players. IMO the squad is good enough to be higher on the ladder, aside from needing a bit more firepower in the forwards.

If we go for a new coach who wants a clear-out it will be back to square one again, and I don't think the club can afford that unless it is determined that the likes of Croft, Ackers, Miller and co are not what we need.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:07 am  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

You must be delighted with yesterday's result. You are probably not even a Leeds supporter.

There are probably good reasons Wane has not been brought in for the head coach role for another SL club. I would struggle to see him fitting in at Headingley.

If we do decide the change the coach, a successful appointment for me would be someone who is capable of getting the most out of the current squad, which has been expensively assembled, much of which is under contract for next season and beyond, and features a growing number of young players. IMO the squad is good enough to be higher on the ladder, aside from needing a bit more firepower in the forwards.

If we go for a new coach who wants a clear-out it will be back to square one again, and I don't think the club can afford that unless it is determined that the likes of Croft, Ackers, Miller and co are not what we need.

Croft, Ackers plus Miller are exactly what we need, unfortunately it’s difficult for them playing behind a lightweight and underperforming set of forwards. Not to mention a sub standard coach.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:10 am  

lock this thread now.
backwoodsman has hit the nail firmly on the head