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OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:22 pm  

All done now pending club announcements. https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 390886.amp

All done now pending club announcements. https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugb ... 390886.amp

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:31 pm  

Gutted personally but can see why hes gone.

Be interesting to see what reception he gets on his return to headingley! If hes not injured of course

Who gets the 4 shirt, Sutcliffe or Broadbent?

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:46 pm  

Can’t knock either party here. He clearly isn’t worth a multi year deal on a big contract to Leeds. Saints have offered him more. He’s 30 and wants one good last contract.

This allows us to bring in more quality for next year now and can be overseas

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:49 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

Can’t knock either party here. He clearly isn’t worth a multi year deal on a big contract to Leeds. Saints have offered him more. He’s 30 and wants one good last contract.

This allows us to bring in more quality for next year now and can be overseas

Saints fans saying they’ve offered him less than us!

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:57 pm  

christopher wrote:

Saints fans saying they’ve offered him less than us!

Haha, priceless. They have to defend such a turgid signing somehow don't they?

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:59 pm  

FGB wrote:

Haha, priceless. They have to defend such a turgid signing somehow don't they?

They do seem to think Woolf is suddenly going to turn him into a fit leaner Second rower, I like Hurrell but I really can’t see that happening.

He’ll have s barnstorming few months for them then injuries/errors will creep back in

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:14 pm  

Sutcliffe gets the number 4 shirt.

If Hurrell stayed it always had to be on Leeds terms, given the club are comfortable with Sutcliffe and Newman as their first choice centre pairing going forward (pending development of Broadbent of course). Unfortunately that meant the offer was one year and not so much money. Saints could beat us on length and deal so it's no surprise he's taken their offer, despite the potential family upheaval it brings.
Whether he will enjoy playing there in a somewhat weakened Saints team next year remains to be seen; certainly it doesn't appear he's getting the reception from their fans he has had at Leeds, for all his faults.

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:20 pm  

Sad about this but it had an air of inevitability about it, and probably for the best in the end.

We have to manage the cap and quota, and with the young players at the club it's important we don't block pathways too.

I suspect he wasn't as good a trainer as the club expects, and with his injuries he's just not been on the park enough either. There's a cultural thing in there about having a whole squad that trains hard and is totally dedicated.

I enjoy watching him play and I wish him all the best.

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:41 pm  

christopher wrote:

They do seem to think Woolf is suddenly going to turn him into a fit leaner Second rower, I like Hurrell but I really can’t see that happening.

He’ll have s barnstorming few months for them then injuries/errors will creep back in

And if that happens, he doesnt make the world cup - there are pros and cons to having an international coach at your club, he has the carrot of bringing out performances for internationals, with the risk of making signings that might not work out ...

I am actually very relaxed about Hurrell (unlike most Saints fans, though they love melodrama). Hes not an automatic first choice for us, and a bit of a luxury risk we can afford to take as we have two youngsters in our spine next year. Either we can get him fitter (I watched some old NRL videos since its been rumoured and the difference is shocking) or he will soon be loosing out to Batchelor, Wingfield or Forster, which isnt a bad position to be in. Similarly, if Hopoate doesnt perform Hurrell/ Simm can be threatening his position. We really need a line breaker as we dont really have one this year (all our second rows are too similar) and Hurrell. might fit the bill. For him to get into Woolfs team hes really going to need to sort his defence, but Saints fans have complained about us being too defence orientated anyway!

The more interesting news for me is it indicates that our other signings have been completed (as I knew the order they were planning to complete them), which will be very exciting for us if they come off.

I would be really interested to know the contracts of Bentley at Leeds and Hurrell at Saints relative to each other!

Re: OUT 2022 | Konrad Hurrell - St Helens : Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:47 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Sad about this but it had an air of inevitability about it, and probably for the best in the end.

We have to manage the cap and quota, and with the young players at the club it's important we don't block pathways too.

I suspect he wasn't as good a trainer as the club expects, and with his injuries he's just not been on the park enough either. There's a cultural thing in there about having a whole squad that trains hard and is totally dedicated.

I enjoy watching him play and I wish him all the best.

Good luck to him. Despite the flaws in his game he did bring some excitement back to watching a Leeds team that had become extremely drab.