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Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Thu May 27, 2021 6:27 am  

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ArthurClues wrote:
Yes, what an unmitigated failure GH has been. Apart from saving the club from bankruptcy and rebuilding an old stadium, he's left the clubs trophy room cluttered with league tiles, challenge cups and world club challenges. Disgraceful! What we need is a classy operator like Pearson.



Great response Arthur!
We may moan about GH at times, but Pearson <Not acceotable>.
Despite where we are at the moment, we can see a brighter future.
Hull do the same year after year.
Change the players, change the coach.
Still mid table every year.
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Thu May 27, 2021 6:40 am  

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Exeter Rhino wrote:
Sometimes I think Leeds do too much to accommodate average senior players who are unable to play the position/role they were orginally signed for.

For example...

Myler signed as a half, failed in that position, and is now accommodated at full-back. However good he is in this position it is not a long-term solution, and it is also questionable whether Myler has the physical attributes to be one of the top full backs in SL.

L. Sutcliffe, brought into the team as a half-back, yet despite failing to nail this position down since Sinfield retired we are still persisting with him in the halves. The club want him to play centre but he's light years behind the top SL centres in this position. Why not let him move on?

Dwyer - a McDermott project signing capable of moments of spark but hasn't got good enough distribution to play the full 80. We lose valuable forward interchanges every game to bring him in but it has been a long time since he has actually changed the game.

T. Briscoe signed as a world class winger during the glory era, but has been rewarded with a new contract despite being out of top form for years and having lost his pace. Now we are experimenting with playing him at centre, which is either blocking youngsters or stopping Sutcliffe play there. Again, which top sides would have given him a new contract?

No doubt I could go on, but you can see why we are falling behind our competitors with too many silly decisions like this.None of these players are Sinfields, Peacocks or Burrows, whom at least were worthy of accommodating in this way.


Agree with you on Sutty and Briscoe , but Myler and Dwyer are our only real threats
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Thu May 27, 2021 8:09 am  

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ploinerrhino wrote:
Agree with you on Sutty and Briscoe , but Myler and Dwyer are our only real threats


Agree Dwyer is a threat though Exeter Rhino's point was that he's not an 80 minute player which I also agree with. Re Myler I don't understand why anyone would contemplate ditching him when there are plenty who are delivering less right now
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Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Thu May 27, 2021 9:09 am  
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Simmo71 wrote:
Great response Arthur!
We may moan about GH at times, but Pearson <Not Acceptable>.
Despite where we are at the moment, we can see a brighter future.
Hull do the same year after year.
Change the players, change the coach.
Still mid table every year.


I agree Arthur’s response was measured and acceptable.

Your post unfortunately was inaccurate, as Radders was with us at least 7/8 seasons, quite a long term for a coach in rugby league.

We have signed Josh Reynolds this year, and a lad from Union.

Cator, Taylor, Houghton, Lane, Fash, McNamara, Brown, Shaul, Bowden, Wynne, are Kingston upon Hull born, so although we should do better with more local lads, we are working on this.

As for being mid table, we do our best, and if you were a true Leeds supporter, regardless of table position, you would know, we follow our team in great numbers.

Regarding your inflammatory comments about our owner AP, who incidentally battled Covid 19 this year and was extremely poorly. If he was looking to further his fortune, I think he could have chosen a different cash cow than our sport.

Comments on individuals, calling them snakes, and selling their own mothers, are not really necessary.
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Thu May 27, 2021 10:00 am  

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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
I agree Arthur’s response was measured and acceptable.

Your post unfortunately was inaccurate, as Radders was with us at least 7/8 seasons, quite a long term for a coach in rugby league.

We have signed Josh Reynolds this year, and a lad from Union.

Cator, Taylor, Houghton, Lane, Fash, McNamara, Brown, Shaul, Bowden, Wynne, are Kingston upon Hull born, so although we should do better with more local lads, we are working on this.

As for being mid table, we do our best, and if you were a true Leeds supporter, regardless of table position, you would know, we follow our team in great numbers.

Regarding your inflammatory comments about our owner AP, who incidentally battled Covid 19 this year and was extremely poorly. If he was looking to further his fortune, I think he could have chosen a different cash cow than our sport.



What a strange response!
What has Pearson having Covid, or the amount of fans Hull have got to do with anything in my post?
Your fellow Hull supporter chose to come on a Leeds forum and criticise our Leadership Team - despite our CEO delivering a trophy laden era.
I responded with my criticism of the Hull strategy.
Deal with it.
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Sat May 29, 2021 6:29 pm  

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Go on the Wigan forum.
Played 8, 7 wins.
First loss today at Catalans. Battered, but they can do that to anyone.
They are calling for Lam's head on a plate....!
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Sat May 29, 2021 6:44 pm  
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Go on the Wigan forum.
Played 8, 7 wins.
First loss today at Catalans. Battered, but they can do that to anyone.
They are calling for Lam's head on a plate....!


Lams not the flavour of the month, nothing to do with today’s shellacking, but more the kind of rugby their playing, unfortunately it seems endemic throughout the game at present, not saying it’s the answer to everything, but ffs reintroduce the scrums, get the half backs more involved, there’s no guile, no craft. Just my opinion, it’s a strange carry on, we spend all the match defending Leeds and win, because of Leeds inability to break us down, then Leeds put sixty on Cas. Scratching my head this season, my dream teams suffering as well. :D
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Sat May 29, 2021 8:14 pm  

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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
Lams not the flavour of the month, nothing to do with today’s shellacking, but more the kind of rugby their playing, unfortunately it seems endemic throughout the game at present, not saying it’s the answer to everything, but ffs reintroduce the scrums, get the half backs more involved, there’s no guile, no craft. Just my opinion, it’s a strange carry on, we spend all the match defending Leeds and win, because of Leeds inability to break us down, then Leeds put sixty on Cas. Scratching my head this season, my dream teams suffering as well. :D

What are they expecting...Martin Offiah gliding 80m? Brain Carney smashing, then flying 80m down touch line?
Those days are long gone. They were saying Bevan French is as good as those guys last season....! Don Manfredi was supposed to be the new Jason Robinson...!
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Sat May 29, 2021 8:49 pm  
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Shabino wrote:
What are they expecting...Martin Offiah gliding 80m? Brain Carney smashing, then flying 80m down touch line?
Those days are long gone. They were saying Bevan French is as good as those guys last season....! Don Manfredi was supposed to be the new Jason Robinson...!


Think they are expecting good footie.
Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) Sat May 29, 2021 9:07 pm  

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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
Think they are expecting good footie.

They are in top 2, won LLS last year and should have won GF...
What more do they want...?
Look what we have had to endure....!!
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