Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Tue May 25, 2021 9:40 am  

christopher wrote:

Not based on last night’s performance, having rewatched the game they were very lucky our attack didn’t click but they were no great shakes at all.

I do think they’ve bagged a decent coach though, but to say they had their first choice spine out on the pitch they weren’t much better than us with attacking options

I agree with you, we were lucky your attack didn’t click, and with us being at say 40% in the 2nd half, and handing the ball back to you continuously to have another go, there was confidence that our defensive structure could hold you, and increasingly, attack wise you appeared to be without ideas.

The weather didn’t help you but it was appalling in the first half too, and we got enough tries to win the game during that time. I know we got them because of a weak link on your right side, but he plays in blue and gold and he was picked as good enough to play.

The the thing with Rich Agar is, he’s a nice guy and he talks a good game, but we know from ever so bitter experience what his lack of inspiring or winning rugby can do to the soul of a club on the pitch and on on the terraces. It’s a tough gig your watching now, and it won’t get any better. You will win again of course and like us you will almost have wanted a loss !! To bring about a change of some sort. But you win and he stays longer. And the pain and the demise continues.

You can’t blame Long, everyone knows he has a brilliant attacking brain, but he’s having to work players with all inventiveness knocked out of them. And anyway so much of his brilliance was off the cuff, and you can’t coach that part.

Hetherington has to be culpable he’s the guy who puts people in the frame to do the job, you won a cup out of it but that could set you back 2 seasons maybe more if Leigh finish above you. The big ship is going in the wrong direction and it’s Captain Hetherington who decides the course it’s on.

There are some on here who are saying “Get Connor” that will fix it ? It’s not so much the arrogance of that statement that surprises readers from outside the Leeds bubble, it’s more the ignorance, that whichever playmaker you bring in will still be on a course to nowhere, with a 2nd in command in RA who hasn’t quite got the idea of steering with a rudder. You get the feeling of going in circles. It’s not a nice place to be.
Until you get that right, you could bring in the Full Saints squad never mind Jake Connor, and slowly but surely RH will have them playing his way. You brought in Gale who was tearing it up at Cas, but slowly he too is waining The cup win was a poisoned chalice for LRLFC.
Saints went a bit that way when Cunningham was given the reigns, great a player as he was, he just couldn’t coach. Your man at the top has voted for a below average achiever to coach your team and that what you got. It’s not rocket science.

What does that say about Hetherington ?? Everything.

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Tue May 25, 2021 11:29 am  

Mark Laurie wrote:

Reminded me of the 80’s.

Back then there'd just be Andy Mason stretching his hamstrings on the advertising hoardings. The rest of the team warmed up by touching their toes a couple of times

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Tue May 25, 2021 1:03 pm  

Uppo58 wrote:

I agree with you, we were lucky your attack didn’t click, and with us being at say 40% in the 2nd half, and handing the ball back to you continuously to have another go, there was confidence that our defensive structure could hold you, and increasingly, attack wise you appeared to be without ideas.

The weather didn’t help you but it was appalling in the first half too, and we got enough tries to win the game during that time. I know we got them because of a weak link on your right side, but he plays in blue and gold and he was picked as good enough to play.

The the thing with Rich Agar is, he’s a nice guy and he talks a good game, but we know from ever so bitter experience what his lack of inspiring or winning rugby can do to the soul of a club on the pitch and on on the terraces. It’s a tough gig your watching now, and it won’t get any better. You will win again of course and like us you will almost have wanted a loss !! To bring about a change of some sort. But you win and he stays longer. And the pain and the demise continues.

You can’t blame Long, everyone knows he has a brilliant attacking brain, but he’s having to work players with all inventiveness knocked out of them. And anyway so much of his brilliance was off the cuff, and you can’t coach that part.

Hetherington has to be culpable he’s the guy who puts people in the frame to do the job, you won a cup out of it but that could set you back 2 seasons maybe more if Leigh finish above you. The big ship is going in the wrong direction and it’s Captain Hetherington who decides the course it’s on.

There are some on here who are saying “Get Connor” that will fix it ? It’s not so much the arrogance of that statement that surprises readers from outside the Leeds bubble, it’s more the ignorance, that whichever playmaker you bring in will still be on a course to nowhere, with a 2nd in command in RA who hasn’t quite got the idea of steering with a rudder. You get the feeling of going in circles. It’s not a nice place to be.
Until you get that right, you could bring in the Full Saints squad never mind Jake Connor, and slowly but surely RH will have them playing his way. You brought in Gale who was tearing it up at Cas, but slowly he too is waining The cup win was a poisoned chalice for LRLFC.
Saints went a bit that way when Cunningham was given the reigns, great a player as he was, he just couldn’t coach. Your man at the top has voted for a below average achiever to coach your team and that what you got. It’s not rocket science.

What does that say about Hetherington ?? Everything.

Yes, what an unmitigated failure GH has been. Apart from saving the club from bankruptcy and rebuilding an old stadium, he's left the clubs trophy room cluttered with league tiles, challenge cups and world club challenges. Disgraceful! What we need is a classy operator like Pearson.

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Tue May 25, 2021 3:10 pm  

Yep, if I were a hull fan I'd be more concerned by my own team's performance. Were it not for briscoe's triple salchow attempt we could have won. Which is remarkable in itself, given what we served up.

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Tue May 25, 2021 4:40 pm  

Uppo58 wrote:

I agree with you, we were lucky your attack didn’t click, and with us being at say 40% in the 2nd half, and handing the ball back to you continuously to have another go, there was confidence that our defensive structure could hold you, and increasingly, attack wise you appeared to be without ideas.

The weather didn’t help you but it was appalling in the first half too, and we got enough tries to win the game during that time. I know we got them because of a weak link on your right side, but he plays in blue and gold and he was picked as good enough to play.

The the thing with Rich Agar is, he’s a nice guy and he talks a good game, but we know from ever so bitter experience what his lack of inspiring or winning rugby can do to the soul of a club on the pitch and on on the terraces. It’s a tough gig your watching now, and it won’t get any better. You will win again of course and like us you will almost have wanted a loss !! To bring about a change of some sort. But you win and he stays longer. And the pain and the demise continues.

You can’t blame Long, everyone knows he has a brilliant attacking brain, but he’s having to work players with all inventiveness knocked out of them. And anyway so much of his brilliance was off the cuff, and you can’t coach that part.

Hetherington has to be culpable he’s the guy who puts people in the frame to do the job, you won a cup out of it but that could set you back 2 seasons maybe more if Leigh finish above you. The big ship is going in the wrong direction and it’s Captain Hetherington who decides the course it’s on.

There are some on here who are saying “Get Connor” that will fix it ? It’s not so much the arrogance of that statement that surprises readers from outside the Leeds bubble, it’s more the ignorance, that whichever playmaker you bring in will still be on a course to nowhere, with a 2nd in command in RA who hasn’t quite got the idea of steering with a rudder. You get the feeling of going in circles. It’s not a nice place to be.
Until you get that right, you could bring in the Full Saints squad never mind Jake Connor, and slowly but surely RH will have them playing his way. You brought in Gale who was tearing it up at Cas, but slowly he too is waining The cup win was a poisoned chalice for LRLFC.
Saints went a bit that way when Cunningham was given the reigns, great a player as he was, he just couldn’t coach. Your man at the top has voted for a below average achiever to coach your team and that what you got. It’s not rocket science.

What does that say about Hetherington ?? Everything.

Meanwhile Hull still are not great are they

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Tue May 25, 2021 5:58 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Back then there'd just be Andy Mason stretching his hamstrings on the advertising hoardings. The rest of the team warmed up by touching their toes a couple of times

Not sure hamstrings had been invented in the 80’s

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Wed May 26, 2021 12:34 am  

Clearwing wrote:

Yep, if I were a hull fan I'd be more concerned by my own team's performance. Were it not for briscoe's triple salchow attempt we could have won. Which is remarkable in itself, given what we served up.

Not really, thats we worst we have played this season and still won, if it had been Wigan or Saints who played that badly and won, they would still get credit.

We are building, we won't win the GF this year (maybe a chance at the cup), but if Hodgson can make a couple of signings in key areas I think we could challenge the top 2 next year.

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Wed May 26, 2021 3:27 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

Not sure hamstrings had been invented in the 80’s

Perhaps he was just exhibiting his muscular thighs. It seems ridiculous now but he would get the mickey taken for it.

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Wed May 26, 2021 3:45 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Perhaps he was just exhibiting his muscular thighs. It seems ridiculous now but he would get the mickey taken for it.

Different world now.

Fev had a full back called Harold Box in the 70’s who used to stop and have 2 pints on the way to the ground before Sunday afternoon games, reckoned it relaxed him and helped loosen him up in a bill weberniuk styleee to then better stiff arm the opposition.

That’s a proper warm up.

Re: RD 7 | Hull FC (H) : Wed May 26, 2021 6:44 pm  

christopher wrote:

Not based on last night’s performance, having rewatched the game they were very lucky our attack didn’t click but they were no great shakes at all.

I do think they’ve bagged a decent coach though, but to say they had their first choice spine out on the pitch they weren’t much better than us with attacking options

we havent an attack to click