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Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:40 pm  
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:
After those two other defeats you had you mean?

I know you guys have on the whole been quite happy with what Agar has done since he joined you, but I will never be convinced that he is a good coach. He isn't the answer for you.


That depends what the question is and how you see the club at the minute.

If you look at Leeds like the golden generation era and say we should be winning everything then no he probably isnt the answer
but that era has gone and it isnt reality to expect that of the club at the moment.

If the question is do we need a steady hand to steer the club in the right direction to lay a platform for possible future success then i believe he is the answer. If you look at where the club was the week he took over to where we are now hes done a decent job. Ok, Covid has given kids games they probably wouldnt have got but theres been some positives there. Hes lifted a trophy and hes worked well with Sinfield.

Lets not forget it was Daryl Powell that started the golden period by steadying a mess of a ship and developing a spirit with young players that led to the success after. Thats probably where we are at the minute.
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:04 pm  

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Shabino wrote:
Yeah we know that. It was only ever a short term plan when we were desperate.
We wouldn't need to sack him either as he'd happily go back to director of rugby or whatever he was before. The bigger problem is the lack of fitness and quality in the squad. Without an in form Gale we are clueless...
sinfield dor do we need one never mind 2 , decent coach probably won't want one
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:12 pm  

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Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:
Bobbsy do you not think the effort shown, with badly depleted teams, against Cas, Saints and Wigan was pretty decent? Fridays performance against KRnt wasnt acceptable i think we would all agree on that including the coaching staff and players but to be calling for the coach's head when hes done a pretty solid job in a short space of time after taking over a complete mess does seem a bit knee jerk in truth.

I do believe we are in a much healthier position than when he took over. We are still without some big players in Gale and Tetevano who should both return shortly. Wouldnt you agree its too early to panic?
even going from not likely to play to dream team gale still a stop gap - although now his thumb- historically loyal to the 70s side and some of the golden generation , though ruthless with the sheffield cull 2003 - when wigan were successful they were ruthless with players /coaches and we stayed 2nd with their cast offs, hanley excepted
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:42 pm  

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Lack of fitness ? that's Jason Davidson's dept is it not ? he is a permanent fixture at the club, absolutely fireproof it would seem
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:55 pm  
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marathonman wrote:
Lack of fitness ? that's Jason Davidson's dept is it not ? he is a permanent fixture at the club, absolutely fireproof it would seem

Strange move to go back to Davidson on the Strength/Conditioning side this season, one of the early decisions Sinfield made when he became DOR was to remove Davidson from the role.
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:47 pm  
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Bobtownrhino wrote:
Yet again on this site the thought control police are trying to stop comment. BASICALLY THE TOTAL REASON WHY THIS SITE IS SO LOW ON TRAFFIC
Sorry you have lost me on control police.
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Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:50 pm  
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Shabino wrote:
Well said mate. If loosing 4 of first 5, out of cup, thrashed by a pretty poor team is knee
Jerking then god help us....!
4 out 5 with our I jury list what else other than the performance against HKR which was dire but the other games the team showed great guts and team spirit.
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Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:33 pm  

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When you have a team with large number of average players you end up with an average side. This is where Leeds are right now - when you have Donaldson, Leeming, Martin, Mellor, Briscoe x2, Thompson, Dwyer in your side you will struggle - the club needs an overall of both the playing squad and the coaching/fitness approach if it wants to be challenging to win the SL again. How many of these players would feature at Saints, Wigan, Warrington, Hull?
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:47 pm  

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For me what’s so frustrating is that it’s totally unacceptable being towards the bottom end of the league for a club like Leeds. I know it’s early and it’s not panic stations yet but we need to get a win or two soon regardless of injuries as if we don’t confidence will be rock bottom and we’ll get stuck in a rut.

Leeds should be challenging towards the top end of the league most seasons and accept nothing less. We’re clearly hugely reliant on Gale Hurrell Tetevano being fully fit and firing. Without those we lack the leadership and strike to win games.
Re: RD 4 | Hull Kingston Rovers (A) Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:59 pm  

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Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:
When you have a team with large number of average players you end up with an average side. This is where Leeds are right now - when you have Donaldson, Leeming, Martin, Mellor, Briscoe x2, Thompson, Dwyer in your side you will struggle - the club needs an overall of both the playing squad and the coaching/fitness approach if it wants to be challenging to win the SL again. How many of these players would feature at Saints, Wigan, Warrington, Hull?


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