FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - CC RD 3 | St Helens (A)
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain4161
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 18 20185 years30th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 19:3028th Mar 24 23:06LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:05 am  
christopher wrote:
I think the one thing we can take from this game is how far we have come, its less than 2 years ago since we got dumped out of the CC by Brafford

Absolutely. I am still fairly confident about the future.

I just think the club needs to make the right calls and not the easy calls on some players this year. Players like Gale and Prior are towards the back end of their careers now. I do think 2022 is a window of opportunity to really get up there again but we still need a couple more players.

We still need another proper prop; we have replaced Ava with a different type of player in Tetevano. Maybe two if Prior goes this year.

Question marks remain over full back and stand off. We're over-stocked with centres and under-stocked with wingers. There are a couple more lads in the Academy system but maybe +1 high quality outside back wouldn't hurt - you have to think about Johnstone, he's hurt us every time we've played Wakey and has exactly what we lack. We never looked like making a long-range break in the back line against Saints, and I'm not sure our first line players provide that either (although they can break a tackle).

Anyway still very proud of the way the lads showed up yesterday - over the course of this season the spotlight will fall on some other areas of the side which need fixing up now we're almost there with the pack.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3082No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 06 20177 years68th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 13:2825th Mar 24 09:19LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:17 am  
fanstanningley wrote:
:lol: I enjoyed the game but would also struggle to watch with no crowd or crowd if I knew the result

Didn't actually know the result. Just couldn't get into it at all. I'll wait into I can go on a Friday night and have a beer now. A lad I know frim the village is up for some live games soon too......
Not for me at minute
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1289No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 17 200915 years183rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 14:3928th Mar 24 14:39LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:23 am  
I really enjoyed the match particularly the 1st half. Walmsley looked rattled. Loved Oledzki, Leeming, Prior and Tetevano flying in and smashing them and don't think they enjoyed it leading to all their errors. It reminded me of the 2015 season with Aiton and Leuleui flying in. Tetevano plays it tough but there is a fine line sometimes but I would not change that in him.

I thought Leeming was great both defensively and in attack and got our big boys moving. I think until the Tetevano red, he was the man to stay on, however, the game changed when he was sent off and it was right for Dwyer to come on who also did very well. It is very useful to have two hookers who can offer something different. I did say that for the final 10 minutes they should have had both on as Leeming brings that intensity and physicality in defence similar to Prior and Tetevano.

I would be finding a spot in the team for Broadbent when all players return. Didn't do much yesterday but was sound defensively. There was an instance towards the end of the match where Grace broke through similar to Johnstone the other week. Broadbent and Dwyer successfully defended the matter whereas Myler and Briscoe failed it. Broadbent for me is better defensively, a better runner and his hands are ok. I think he deserves a continued run in the team.

Alex Sutcliffe again was impressive and sets a good intensity defensively and Gannon from the little I saw of him looks like he could have a big future.

My concern is when Oledzki, Prior and Tetevano have to take a breather admittedly not all at the same time. We do not currently have anyone to come on to match their intensity. We could have done with a Paasi to sub on for them and bring the impact. I would like to have seen how Paasi would have gone had he started the match and been up against the intensity of Oledzki, Leeming, Prior and Tetevano. Hopefully Holyroyd and King can provide that fire power.

Sam Walters needs to play as often as possible. I think he got some poor balls yesterday. I could see him starring when surrounded by better half backs, centres and wingers. Give Gale several options to pass to with Walters running strong lines and he will slice through a lot.

We now have a very good pack and I would like them to play to that intensity with a near full strength back line. I think we will then look a very good side.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3092No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 26 200618 years62nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Mar 23 22:1119th Feb 23 21:41LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:29 am  
All in all it was a very enjoyable watch and very impressive.

Yes we had extra forwards on the field but we had a mongrel there that's long been missing.

You have to hand it to Agar, the team which lost to Bradford was much stronger on paper than this one so it shows what impact attitude, self-belief, clarity of roles and game plan can have on a team.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11342
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 11 200222 years142nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 17:4422nd Mar 24 23:31LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Pudsey
Signature
I'm not a pheasant plucker, i'm a pheasant pluckers son and i'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes.

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:14 am  
rugbyleague88 wrote:
I really enjoyed the match particularly the 1st half. Walmsley looked rattled. Loved Oledzki, Leeming, Prior and Tetevano flying in and smashing them and don't think they enjoyed it leading to all their errors. It reminded me of the 2015 season with Aiton and Leuleui flying in. Tetevano plays it tough but there is a fine line sometimes but I would not change that in him.

I thought Leeming was great both defensively and in attack and got our big boys moving. I think until the Tetevano red, he was the man to stay on, however, the game changed when he was sent off and it was right for Dwyer to come on who also did very well. It is very useful to have two hookers who can offer something different. I did say that for the final 10 minutes they should have had both on as Leeming brings that intensity and physicality in defence similar to Prior and Tetevano.

I would be finding a spot in the team for Broadbent when all players return. Didn't do much yesterday but was sound defensively. There was an instance towards the end of the match where Grace broke through similar to Johnstone the other week. Broadbent and Dwyer successfully defended the matter whereas Myler and Briscoe failed it. Broadbent for me is better defensively, a better runner and his hands are ok. I think he deserves a continued run in the team.

Alex Sutcliffe again was impressive and sets a good intensity defensively and Gannon from the little I saw of him looks like he could have a big future.

My concern is when Oledzki, Prior and Tetevano have to take a breather admittedly not all at the same time. We do not currently have anyone to come on to match their intensity. We could have done with a Paasi to sub on for them and bring the impact. I would like to have seen how Paasi would have gone had he started the match and been up against the intensity of Oledzki, Leeming, Prior and Tetevano. Hopefully Holyroyd and King can provide that fire power.

Sam Walters needs to play as often as possible. I think he got some poor balls yesterday. I could see him starring when surrounded by better half backs, centres and wingers. Give Gale several options to pass to with Walters running strong lines and he will slice through a lot.

We now have a very good pack and I would like them to play to that intensity with a near full strength back line. I think we will then look a very good side.
Agree with just about all of that. If you are to have Leeming and Dwyer on at the same time then there is no need for Donaldson to be in the team as Leeming will do that tempo and hitting hard stuff. I agree Walters needs better ball and as you Gale will put him through those gaps and will be a real handfull. If Hurrell does sign a new contract he could be the man to bring on to add that impact to the pack. Broadbent was again very good at full back especially defensively. He's a real talent and him and Newman I'm sure will form a very good centre partnership. Both different styles Newman adds zip and athleticism and Broadbent is more your classic centre nice step and great hands.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2356
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 10 20168 years275th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Jun 23 21:4717th Feb 22 13:16LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
I really am rhinoms and haven't stolen his Avatar!

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:01 pm  
I thought the lads had a real dig & imo if we'd had a HB & Tetevano for the full 80 we win that game.
Our Pack battered theirs ,im 50/50 with the Red card seen them given & seen them just sin binning as well. Paasi made a huge impact but twice he lead with the forearm which was blatant & easy to see but Thaler ignored it.
Going forward once again the younger lads stepped up & deserve their chances when we have our 1st choice players available.
Anyone any idea what Esstmond is up to? Ive seen him in full trainibg live & in the background when we see interviews on Rhinos tv so WTF is Agar wsiting for?
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player9No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 07 20213 years299th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 12:1417th Oct 23 16:17LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:18 pm  
Great effort and you really rattled Saints. Thought Oledski was immense and pack generally excellent. Surprised only comment re Donaldson was negative - if you watch again you will see his tackling was tremendous. He goes at the lower legs and stops players and when others come in on top it really hurts them - Walmsley was largely played out of the game as a result. With proper half backs and no T Briscoe gifts to Grace you would have won.
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1382
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 20203 years39th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 07:1528th Mar 24 21:45LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:23 pm  
I really don't get this 'I'm not watching games on TV anymore while there's no crowds'
Doesn't make any sense.
The camera is zoomed in on the players and the pitch so you can't tell the difference.

I thought it was a great game to watch and great to finally see our pack matching the big guns again.
No half back and the red card clearly lost us the game.
If that is a red, then fair enough.
But the problem is that refs won't apply it consistently.
Guarantee that next weekend we will be on here questioning why so and so hasn't been sent off.
Gale got 3 or 4 last week against Cas.

And agree on the young lads.
Broadbent should be ahead of Myler at FB now.
Maybe Myler will have to cover in the halves instead.
Walters ahead of Mellor for me as well.
And actually, I think Luke Briscoe should be ahead of Tom now!
Also can't fault A Sutcliffe. He won't let us down.
Very excited about the prospect of Gannon.

Agar and Sinfield should be begging Prior to stay another year - he is superb. 9/10 every week.
A 6 and a winger are priorities for 2022.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11342
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 11 200222 years142nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 17:4422nd Mar 24 23:31LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Pudsey
Signature
I'm not a pheasant plucker, i'm a pheasant pluckers son and i'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes.

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:20 pm  
Simmo71 wrote:

Agar and Sinfield should be begging Prior to stay another year - he is superb. 9/10 every week.
A 6 and a winger are priorities for 2022.
A 6 for next season will depend on how Eastmond goes. Prior once again superb.
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2311No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 24 20204 years9th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Mar 24 12:0224th Mar 24 11:48LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: CC RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:21 pm  
If we could somehow land a Taupau whist retaining Prior we'd the best pack in Superleague bar none. Might even be worth waiting another year for a winger. Eastmond is key in all this re salary cap I believe. If he can cut it at six we won't have to splash a chunk on a six, if he can't we will.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Damo-Leeds, Danibo160, Jack Burton and 365 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Leeds Rhinos


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Rd 6 I Cas A
Jack Burton
108
26m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
boardwalkemp
137
Recent
New Super League shirts in time for Christmas
Deadcowboys1
115
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
34290
Recent
York - 14th April
Spookisback
10
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
56011
Recent
Other Championship Clubs
FOREVERTRIN
98
Recent
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
RobRiches
1934
Recent
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Dave K.
357
Recent
Fevround 2
Trojan Horse
91
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
RobRiches
1934
2m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Dave K.
357
3m
Challenge Cup
stpatricks
37
3m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Jack Burton
8703
4m
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
6m
Smith out ASAP
Backwoodsman
138
6m
Huddersfield - Home
Fartown58
6
7m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
27
7m
Other Championship Clubs
FOREVERTRIN
98
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhinos Go Level Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
York - 14th April
Spookisback
10
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Cokey
4
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
TODAY
Saints a
WWste
23
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
Fartown58
6
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
27
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhino..
90
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
530
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
658
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
571
Warrington Demolish London For..
679
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
723
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
703
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
949
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
919
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1063
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1038
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1101
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1078
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3858
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1197
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist