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Re: Hanley : Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:43 pm  
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It's fair to say the Hanley signing was one of the reasons I started taking an interest in supporting Leeds. My parents had been fans since the 70s, and I was taken to games plenty of times as a kid but it wasn't until 1991 that the sport really clicked with me. Leeds were a much better side with Hanley in the team, and he seemed to score in every game. The Dannatt injury was sheer thuggery, but not uncommon in the sport at the time. Imagine what the Sky commentators would have made of it now!

I never saw Hanley in his pomp at Wigan, but I'm going to be controversial and say that Schofield seemed more important to get that Leeds team ticking. Like someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, Hanley was more of an exceptional individual, but Schofield ran the team, even though his pace had gone by then. Of course, having read about what was going on behind the scenes at Leeds (e.g. Laughton's autobiography), I'm willing to believe that Schofield's ego may have been one of the reasons we didn't pick up any meaningful silverware at the time. You've probably got to point the finger at Dougie as well, given the talent at his disposal, even if some of the players had a better time at other clubs. Hanley seemed to give his all for us though.

As for the best players in SL, it is ludicrous to suggest that Sam Tomkins would not be in the top 20. He was the hottest property in the competition for about 3 seasons, and is still highly influential!



Tomkins would definitely not be in my top 25 Super League players.
Remember, Super League is 25 years old, not 10.
Radlinski in a different league as a full back to Tomkins.
Brent Webb better as well.
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Re: Hanley : Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:24 pm  
Tomkins prior to going to the NRL was sensational.
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:17 am  
Sorry to butt in, but...

The thing with Hanley was his consistency over his career. As Schoey says, (yes, I know) what you need from a player is to produce 7 or 8 out of ten performances every week. Hanley produced 9 or 10 out of 10 every week. He had his weaknesses, but he played to his strengths and they were so strong any weaknesses were irrelevant. A proper RL star.
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:41 am  
Simmo71 wrote:
Tomkins would definitely not be in my top 25 Super League players.
Remember, Super League is 25 years old, not 10.
Radlinski in a different league as a full back to Tomkins.
Brent Webb better as well.


Re - Radlinski. Great player yes, but Tomkins had wow factor. He could win you a game on his own.....
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:08 am  
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Re - Radlinski. Great player yes, but Tomkins had wow factor. He could win you a game on his own.....



Yeh - all about opinions.
Depends what you define as best ever.
If it’s consistently performing over 10+ years, then its Radlinski or Wellens.
If it’s playing at the very top level and performing on the international stage it’s Webb.
If it’s purely X factor, then Tomkins or Hardaker.
I just think it’s a shame Tomkins failed in the NRL and did little at international level, because I agree, for 3-4 years he was fantastic.
But he deteriorated and just became a grub desperately trying to wind up the opposition and win penalties.
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:04 am  
If you put ellery hanley balmain into youtube there is a nice 15 minute documentary on Ellery's time there and how he's regarded over there.

I'd post a link, but not sure of the copyright situation with the video & who uploaded it to there.
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:23 am  
https://youtu.be/E5gaU0RaHCA

What a player he was
https://youtu.be/E5gaU0RaHCA

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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:23 am  
Tomkins joined the wrong NRL team. Had he gone to a stronger club he would've done better. I'm not sure he had that option though. Hanley transformed Balmain from being a good side to being genuine premiership contenders. Had it not been for a nasty high tackle by Terry Lamb in the Grand Final they would've won it.
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:41 am  
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Tomkins joined the wrong NRL team. Had he gone to a stronger club he would've done better. I'm not sure he had that option though. Hanley transformed Balmain from being a good side to being genuine premiership contenders. Had it not been for a nasty high tackle by Terry Lamb in the Grand Final they would've won it.



The opposition always targeted Hanley,
Stop Hanley and you stop Balmain - Lamb admitted that.
They’d have had to go into the players lounge on match day to target Tomkins!!
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Re: Hanley : Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:32 pm  
My abiding memory of Ellery was watching him during a saturday morning training session at Headingley , he ran up and down the touchline in front of the North stand , he ran at pace up and down , up and down that touchline for ages , when he stopped he not out even of breath one bit , it just proved how fit he was and what a athlete he was really

He is the greatest player in the modern game ,
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