Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:39 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

It amazes me that some fans think that the weight of an individual player is somehow the sole responsibility of the coaching staff. Yes, they can provide guidance on what players should be eating and how they should be training, but at the end of the day some players are just bad trainers. Of course, they should be more professional as individuals. But this has to be balanced against the positive contribution they can bring to the team.

For example, it is alleged (I think in Frank Endacott's autobiography) that David Solomona was a bad trainer - and it used to show in some of his UK appearances. That said, even carrying a few extra pounds (or stone!), no-one would doubt that Solomona had the ability to single-handedly win a game for his team, on a regular basis. Like it or not, Hurrell is probably in this category, even though Leeds could probably use him a bit more effectively.

Well said. Nail on head.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:05 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

It amazes me that some fans think that the weight of an individual player is somehow the sole responsibility of the coaching staff. Yes, they can provide guidance on what players should be eating and how they should be training, but at the end of the day some players are just bad trainers. Of course, they should be more professional as individuals. But this has to be balanced against the positive contribution they can bring to the team.

For example, it is alleged (I think in Frank Endacott's autobiography) that David Solomona was a bad trainer - and it used to show in some of his UK appearances. That said, even carrying a few extra pounds (or stone!), no-one would doubt that Solomona had the ability to single-handedly win a game for his team, on a regular basis. Like it or not, Hurrell is probably in this category, even though Leeds could probably use him a bit more effectively.

Hurrell is looking pretty lean in the vids hes posting so i guess he's taking all on board what the coaching staff are telling him which is good news all round.Hurrell said after the first lock down he came back over weight wants to fix that for the start of this season.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:21 pm  

The coaching staff told Koni, Rhyse and Lui at the end of last season that they wasnt in shape and all 3 was on the same edge at end of last year.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:39 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

It amazes me that some fans think that the weight of an individual player is somehow the sole responsibility of the coaching staff. Yes, they can provide guidance on what players should be eating and how they should be training, but at the end of the day some players are just bad trainers. Of course, they should be more professional as individuals. But this has to be balanced against the positive contribution they can bring to the team.

For example, it is alleged (I think in Frank Endacott's autobiography) that David Solomona was a bad trainer - and it used to show in some of his UK appearances. That said, even carrying a few extra pounds (or stone!), no-one would doubt that Solomona had the ability to single-handedly win a game for his team, on a regular basis. Like it or not, Hurrell is probably in this category, even though Leeds could probably use him a bit more effectively.

I agree that certain players can get away with carrying a bit of blubber. I dont mind hurrell carrying a few extra pounds and possibly holroyd as well but the fact that hurrell said he wants to lose 10kg is obviously not a good sign.
I take your point about individual responsibility but the club should be having harsh words with players who take the p#$#.It effects performances ,results and sets a bad example. It often seems to be our foreign contingent also.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:48 am  

If you're overweight but still making a significant contribution to the side, your weight can be overlooked. No one cares what you weight or look like if you're playing well.

Having a season like Rob Lui did last year and looking like he did. Just not a good look for a professional sportsman at all.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:20 am  

I think we should offer Hurrell another 2 years on marquee money IF he has another good season.
Offered us far more than most of the other marquee signings in SL (Austin, Widdopp, G Burgess last year)

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:07 pm  

In terms of Koni, am I the only one hearing the aim is 10kg lighter than last year going into this, as in it's a work in progress. Not that he is starting from scratch with the weight loss?
If it's work in progress, and it looks to be well on it's way from footage and pics of training, then that's a big positive.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:33 pm  

Definitely a good thing but he shouldn't have needed to lose 10kg in the first place.That is a serious amount of weight to put on.I get he's naturally a big bloke and a couple of kg may even help him but there has to be a limit.

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:56 pm  

I don't think he has put 10kg on during lockdown. I'd guess he came at least 5-7kg over and never got down anywhere near his current goal. I look forward to seeing how he comes into the season.....and how Long has coached the halves to utilise him better in attack

Re: Player | Konrad Hurrell : Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:35 pm  

LocalSuperhero wrote:

I don't think he has put 10kg on during lockdown. I'd guess he came at least 5-7kg over and never got down anywhere near his current goal. I look forward to seeing how he comes into the season.....and how Long has coached the halves to utilise him better in attack

Probably hadn't done any coaching with the halves as they were all injured!