Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:14 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

So if nobody is prepared to pay a fee then what do Leeds gain other than my dad is bigger than your dad?

If most on here think it will make players see out their contracts I personally don't agree - we have seen with Carroll, Buderus and Eastwood the exact same scenario i.e. I want to cut my contract short and the reaction of the club to be very different. All the above made the same commitment as Segayaro and failed to come good on their word

Scott Donald also reneged on his contract early.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:28 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Scott Donald also reneged on his contract early.

he did as he went to join the police, but again all above board and done through the right channels and went with the clubs blessing.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:40 pm  

The point is you will always get overseas players who will not see their contract out regardless of the example you set with Segayaro

Graham Murray is seen as a club legend but he did the same - an NRL club knocking and off he went taking with him arguably one of the best players in the whole competition.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:46 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

he did as he went to join the police, but again all above board and done through the right channels and went with the clubs blessing.

It will always be with the clubs blessing when they have a replacement already, and are happy enough to release.

Segayaro was world class, and saved us from relegation. The club therefore knew the importance of keeping him. They also knew he wanted to be in the NRL if he could, but chose to forget that bit.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:53 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

It will always be with the clubs blessing when they have a replacement already, and are happy enough to release.

Segayaro was world class, and saved us from relegation. The club therefore knew the importance of keeping him. They also knew he wanted to be in the NRL if he could, but chose to forget that bit.

Without Segeyaro, Leeds would have finished bottom of SL and they may well have struggled to emerge from the Middle 8's with any dignity either.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:52 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The point is you will always get overseas players who will not see their contract out regardless of the example you set with Segayaro.

Yes and as pointed out with other examples there's nothing wrong with that if the player/coach goes out it the right way.

- Segeyaro went public when he didn't need to.
- He painted a picture that he was left alone to look at 4 walls every night when the club worked the balls off to make him welcome and happy.
- His agent is now claiming the contract was finalised.

All things he didn't have to do, so when people say he made one mistake by signing a new contract.....no he made a few mistakes now in how he's tried to force a move.

End of the day he could've been a Cronulla player 2 months ago had he, Cronulla and his agent gone about it professionally.....but they've chosen not to.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:33 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

End of the day he could've been a Cronulla player 2 months ago had he, Cronulla and his agent gone about it professionally.....but they've chosen not to.

Agreed. No problem with that.

None the less, if GH so chose, he could sue Segeyaro for breach of contract.
The reason he hasn't is that he'd only be awarded sufficient damages to the amount that the club's out of pocket as a result of JS's actions.
Which would, in all probability, amount to the sum of f*** all. Even without knowing the ins and outs of the respective contracts of JS and Parcell, it's entirely possible that the club may be better off.
Instead, GH has preferred to prevent JS from plying his trade by playing the registration card.

This is where I do have a problem: this restriction - of dubious legality - wouldn't apply to anyone in pretty much any other walk of life.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:40 pm  

You talk some cr*p Gotcha , the club never chose to forget anything . Both parties agreed a deal and signed the contract . End of story .

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:36 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Yes and as pointed out with other examples there's nothing wrong with that if the player/coach goes out it the right way.

- Segeyaro went public when he didn't need to.
- He painted a picture that he was left alone to look at 4 walls every night when the club worked the balls off to make him welcome and happy.
- His agent is now claiming the contract was finalised.

All things he didn't have to do, so when people say he made one mistake by signing a new contract.....no he made a few mistakes now in how he's tried to force a move.

End of the day he could've been a Cronulla player 2 months ago had he, Cronulla and his agent gone about it professionally.....but they've chosen not to.

I agree Segeyaro hasn't covered himself in glory but the approach of the club doesn't show them particularly in a good light.

I am sure he told GH at their meeting in Australia that he wasn't going to return yet GH announced to all and sundry he was.

GH has history in that respect - his pronouncements on the stadium redevelopment when he knew it wasn't going to happen just to sell a few ST's is but one example.

GH is cutting his nose off to spite his face just like he did when Iestyn went to RU.

Nobody wins here and as has been mentioned the club is preventing somebody from plying their trade - morally someone has to take the higher ground and move on.

Re: Player | James Segeyaro : Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:57 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

You talk some cr*p Gotcha , the club never chose to forget anything . Both parties agreed a deal and signed the contract . End of story .

The club didn't know he wanted to be in the NRL? yet he had a clause when he came over saying exactly that. I think you need to see the reality.